X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTP id 2892986 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 04 May 2008 11:54:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.208; envelope-from=Lehanover@aol.com Received: from Lehanover@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id q.d07.2e9c87ff (14467) for ; Sun, 4 May 2008 11:53:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lehanover@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:53:52 EDT Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Jet-A To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1209916432" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5132 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1209916432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I love that scientific talk. Mistral is working on the JetA for fuel idea. Since in normally aspirated trim the rotary is difficult to detonate, it is insensitive to a fuels octane rating. So if it already ran on jet A and motor fuel as well, it couldn't be affected by a misfueling situation. During W.W.II auto fuel tanks held coal oil, or kerosene. An add on little tank of gasoline was rigged up on the fire wall with some plumbing to switch between the two. The car would be started and warmed up on gasoline and then switched to coal oil for the trip to the defense plant. When the destination was in sight, the switch was made back to gasoline so the engine would start for the trip home. Even at 7:1 compression the engines would knock (detonate) and smoke, and timing changes may have been involved, but it worked. Fuel injection with its forced atomization, would make the transition even easier. Lynn e. Hanover In a message dated 5/4/2008 6:51:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes: OK, here's a question out of left field. A Lancair recently went down in AZ right after being refueled. On the Lancair list, the speculation is that it was fueled with Jet-A. I was curious, if this happened to a rotary, would it run (continue to produce power) on jet-a or would the engine quit? I speculate that due to the fuel pumps continuously circulating the fuel to the fuel rails and back to the tank, it probably wouldn't even start, but if it did, would it continue to run on the mix of jet-a and mogas? I guess it depends on the ratio of mogas to jet-a. Assuming that the fuel was almost 100% jet-A, would it still run? Ed, you've pretty much had everything happen to you that can possibly happen in an airplane, what-you-say? Mark S. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) -------------------------------1209916432 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I love that scientific talk.

Mistral is working on the JetA for fuel idea. Since in normally aspirat= ed trim the rotary is difficult to detonate, it is insensitive to a fuels oc= tane rating. So if it already ran on jet A and motor fuel as well, it couldn= 't be affected by a misfueling situation.

During W.W.II auto fuel tanks held coal oil, or kerosene. An add on lit= tle tank of gasoline was rigged up on the fire wall with some plumbing to sw= itch between the two. The car would be started and warmed up on gasoline and= then switched to coal oil for the trip to the defense plant. When the desti= nation was in sight, the switch was made back to gasoline so the engine woul= d start for the trip home. Even at 7:1 compression the engines would knock (= detonate) and smoke, and timing changes may have been involved, but it worke= d.

Fuel injection with its forced atomization, would make the transition e= ven easier.

Lynn e. Hanover

In a message dated 5/4/2008 6:51:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eanderson= @carolina.rr.com writes:

OK, here's a question out of left field. = A Lancair recently went down in AZ right after being refueled. On the= Lancair list, the speculation is that it was fueled with Jet-A. I was= curious, if this happened to a rotary, would it run (continue to produce po= wer) on jet-a or would the engine quit? I speculate that due to the fu= el pumps continuously circulating the fuel to the fuel rails and back to the= tank, it probably wouldn't even start, but if it did, would it continue to=20= run on the mix of jet-a and mogas? I guess it depends on the rat= io of mogas to jet-a. Assuming that the fuel was almost 100% jet-A, wo= uld it still run?

Ed, you've pretty much had everything happen= to you that can possibly happen in an airplane, what-you-say?

Mark S.

Wondering what's for Dinner= Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.<= /FONT>

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