X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from host.roblinphoto.com ([72.52.218.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTPS id 2890480 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 May 2008 12:06:33 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.52.218.78; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229]:57988 helo=quail) by host.roblinphoto.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jrxlh-0006B0-Qa for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 May 2008 12:05:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:03:10 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator orientation? Message-Id: <20080502100310.33dcec29.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0beta3 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.roblinphoto.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com On Thu, 1 May 2008 20:14:48 EDT Lehanover@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/1/2008 3:31:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, silvius@gwi.net > writes: > > Anyone see any issues of concern with installing the radiators in the > vertical orientation as opposed to their normal orientation with the inlets > and outlet on the top. These are evaporator cores from a JMC Jimmy- Chevy > Blazer > > Michael in Maine > > Make at least one outlet at the top. Inlet at the bottom. > > Lynn E. Hanover > > > Hi Lynn, I had to sleep on that advice to get it straight in my head. I believe it's good advice, but could still be connected in a detrimental way. It's important to feed the water pump from the bottom of one of the coolers. If the coolers are in series, the outlet and inlet would both be on the bottom with a straight connection between the top fittings connected together. That would simplify the plumbing as well as insure that in the event of a cooling leak, the second core would remain full of water at least until the first core was nearly empty. Using the top fittings for outlet and inlet would still make one of them flow bottom to top, but would be detrimental if there were a loss of fluid. With the cores in parallel, I'm not so sure bottom to top flow for one of them would be a good idea. It would complicate the plumbing, and make it more likely that flow rates would be unequal between the cores. But if one did connect them that way, it would still be important to make the outlet near the bottom of the radiator. I had always wondered why Mazda designed the engine with the water pump so near the top of the engine which results in a lack of flow with just a small amount of water loss. It seemed to be a design flaw. After starting to disassemble the RX-7, I now realize that the engine is setting so low relative to the radiator in the car that is isn't any more of a problem than most cars. In general, the radiator is usually relatively low in the airplane installations which make the pump location less than ideal. Bob W. (Need something better to think about when I can't fall asleep.) -- N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/