Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #42255
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: Oil flow rate
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:45:41 -0800
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

I use the TRD-1030 dual mount and two K&N HP3001s for more than 12 GPM at 9,600 RPM. Not at all needed for lower airplane RPM and much less flow, and very heavy, when both cans are full of oil

 

Prior to building up my system I had data from my friend at the dyno facility showing 16 gpm oil flow at 6000 rpm on a 13B.  My 20B engine on the dyno showed oil flow of 15 gpm at 6000 rpm, and it was still going up with rpm.  This was with 100 psi oil pressure.

 

I think it important to realize these high flow rates when chosing your filter setup and your oil cooler, especially if you are running with higher reduction drive ratios where 6000 rpm and higher may be routine. Off the shelf coolers are designed for piston engines which have about half the flow.  Get the flow-pressure drop curves from the manufacturer before deciding.

 

The stock oil filter block with the very small filter is plumbed in parallel with the flow bypass to the pressure regulator valve, so is not a full flow filter setup. Apparently Mazda felt full flow filtering for automotive use was not important.  I installed a dual filter remote mount and used two K&N HP3001 filters for full flow filtering before the cooler. Perhaps a bit of overkill.

 

I am just now installing an oil/water exchanger in parallel with the oil/air cooler (also after the filters), and the configuration is such that the large HP3001s will no longer fit.  I’m going to the HP2004 filter which is about to 1 1/4 inches shorter, but otherwise the same construction as the HP3001. Too bad, I now have 2 HP3001 filters on the shelf that have only been run a few hours.

 

Al

 

.  So, the choice then could be based on how your oil lines will be run, and where the filter will be mounted in the cowl. You would want to have the can hanging straight down to avoid messes when changing. Some place where you can get to it with both hands.

 

And once you determin where, then lay out the oil lines with the idea that the bends should be (to the extent possible) (one of my favorate Government terms) made using the oil hose rather than angled fittings.

Observe the minimum bend radius for your hose. Each drilled 90 degree fitting has the same drag of 3 feet of hose. So, the filter mount that allows for the best combination is the one you want. If a 90 degree turn is required as a fitting try to use a tube fitting, where the bend is actually a 90 degree bend in a metal tube, rather than the intersection of two drilled holes in a fitting.

 

The TRD-1028 is the most common, for mounting low in the left or right quadrant of the fire wall. Not much of a choice unless angled fittings are used.

 The TRD-1045 has horizontal fitting holes and this gives a bit more lattitude in mounting location. Also the unused holes can be used for pressure and temp senders for primary or back up indication.

 

Lynn E. Hanover

 

 

 

In a message dated 4/6/2008 9:27:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gregw@onestopdesign.biz writes:

Which model on this page are you talking about Lynn?

Greg Ward




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