X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with ESMTP id 2830693 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:17:24 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.40; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 938Y1Z0080x6nqcA400P00; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:15:27 +0000 Received: from gregoryii ([24.6.40.29]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 93Ga1Z00U0dkeQQ8Y00000; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:16:35 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tW7C8hUZx2DsoAFIxZkA:9 a=ZqdXhJkjW2sztJqpMNMA:7 a=QF0ZezvMRMdXkHCIpHMHS_PvmCAA:4 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=tCoxvbWIAAAA:8 a=tpCpsqlIeK95yWSds4EA:9 a=BCId79XYe9nn29T4W_0A:7 a=zEqc8Zbo1Yi9oWicGogv94cv-7kA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <04a901c8959e$523733e0$8801a8c0@yosemite.onestopdesign.biz> From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop selection Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:20:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04A6_01C89563.A56A7EE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04A6_01C89563.A56A7EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Mark; The direct bid from MT, was for $14,850, including the spinner and some = other accessories. The Craig Catto prop was for less than $3000, and = the performance figures were almost identical. High speed cruise was = actually better, and with the turbo at takeoff, power shouldn't be a = problem. Lancair kind of groaned too when I made this decision, but my = decision was based on several factors. This will be one fast aircraft, = and I need to be right on top of it, therefore, CS is one less thing to = worry about. Next, if, a few hundred hours down the road, I decide that = I want CS (electric) I will be pre-wired for it, and can switch. = Lastly, this composite prop can be modified to suit, based on how my = static and flight testing goes, and that's a big plus for me. I am a = firm believer in KISS (Keep it simple Sister) and this seems the best = way to go, as this project is moving much faster than I anticipated. Greg Ward ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:39 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop selection Greg,=20 Have you checked with Jim Ayers on the price of an M/T? My 76" = 3-blade was $7,500. I find it hard to believe they have gone up that = much. But then again, I did get in on a group buy. Maybe they are in = the midst of doing another group buy at this time? Mark On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Greg Ward = wrote: I have decided to go with fixed pitch on my Legacy 20B FG. The = numbers I am getting back, based on turbocharging, are nothing short of = verrrrry goood.....(:-) If I don't like it, I can always hang a = $16,000.00 MT vs. the $3000 composite. Greg Ward Lancair 20B in progress ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bmears9413@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:38 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop selection Mark, When you made your prop choice, was hydraulic even an option with = the 20-B setup? If it was why did you choose the electric? I keep = looking at the Vesta, the veriProp, the whirlwind, and MT. Part of what = I'm looking for is the WWII look also. Otherwise I would probably go = with the Ivo Prop. Any feed back on these props by anyone would be = appreciated. Bob Mears Supermarine Spirfire=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Get the MapQuest Toolbar, Maps, Traffic, Directions & More!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_04A6_01C89563.A56A7EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Mark;
The direct bid from MT, was for $14,850, = including the=20 spinner and some other accessories.  The Craig Catto prop was for = less than=20 $3000, and the performance figures were almost identical.  High = speed=20 cruise was actually better, and with the turbo at takeoff, power = shouldn't be a=20 problem.  Lancair kind of groaned too when I made this decision, = but my=20 decision was based on several factors.  This will be one fast=20 aircraft, and I need to be right on top of it, therefore, CS is one less = thing=20 to worry about.  Next, if, a few hundred hours down the road, I = decide that=20 I want CS (electric) I will be pre-wired for it, and can switch.  = Lastly,=20 this composite prop can be modified to suit, based on how my static and = flight=20 testing goes, and that's a big plus for me.  I am a firm believer = in KISS=20 (Keep it simple Sister) and this seems the best way to go, as this = project is=20 moving much faster than I anticipated.
Greg Ward
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark = Steitle=20
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 = 3:39=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop=20 selection

Greg,
Have you checked with Jim Ayers on the price = of an=20 M/T?  My 76" 3-blade was $7,500.  I find it hard to believe = they=20 have gone up that much.  But then again, I did get in on a group=20 buy.   Maybe they are in the midst of doing another group = buy at=20 this time?

Mark

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Greg Ward = <gregw@onestopdesign.biz>=20 wrote:
I have decided to go with fixed pitch on my = Legacy 20B=20 FG.  The numbers I am getting back, based on turbocharging, are = nothing=20 short of verrrrry goood.....(:-)  If I don't like it, I can = always hang=20 a $16,000.00 MT vs. the $3000 composite.
Greg Ward
Lancair 20B in progress
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 bmears9413@aol.com
To:=20 Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft Sent:=20 Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:38 PM Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Prop selection



Mark,
When you made your prop choice, = was=20 hydraulic even an option with the 20-B setup? If it was why did = you choose=20 the electric? I keep looking at the Vesta, the veriProp, the = whirlwind,=20 and MT. Part of what I'm looking for is the WWII look also. = Otherwise I=20 would probably go with the Ivo Prop. Any feed back on these props = by=20 anyone would be appreciated.

Bob Mears
 Supermarine = Spirfire=20
Get the MapQuest Toolbar, Maps, Traffic, Directions = &=20 More!=20

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