X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from eastrmmtao101.cox.net ([68.230.240.7] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with ESMTP id 2821697 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:15:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.240.7; envelope-from=paulo264@cox.net Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080328051429.CPVC880.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:14:29 -0400 Received: from paul400gb ([68.106.133.229]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 6VEU1Z0024x7S5w02VEUij; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:14:28 -0400 Message-ID: <021801c89092$9b1a34b0$e5856a44@paul400gb> From: "Paul Vermillion" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: 2-stroke oil Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:14:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0215_01C89068.B22EA8E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0215_01C89068.B22EA8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Sorry, guys----I'm new to the rotary game and keep trying to decipher = some of the abbreviations you use, e.g., BIA, MMO, & OMP refer to...??? = Paul ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2-stroke oil For the premix oil I use any good BIA cert. TCW-3 2-stroke oil mixed = 50-50 with MMO both of which come from Walmart. Any of the Redline = 2-stroke oils would be excellent, including the snomobile stuff. Let us know if you notice any change when you go to premix. My old = 1988 RX-7 felt spunkier when I started using premix in it but it was an = old 150K mile beater. The bottle says Mobile 1 is compatible with standard mineral oil so = I'm sure a bit of the old stuff in the system won't hurt. =20 Ignore my rantings on big oil pans and go flying :>) Tracy On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Al Gietzen = wrote: I go for the 15W - 50 Mobile 1 cause it has more Zinc for the = gears & bearings than the lighter weights. Straight 40W Redline would = be even better but I can't get it at Walmart and I'm cheap. Tracy; What 2-stroke oil do you use, and can you get it at Walmart? I note = that Redline has a number of different 2-stroke oils, the gallon size = for snowmobiles being the least expensive. Would that work? BTW, I use a 4 qt sump even on the 20B. I don't understand the = appeal of great big oil pans. Why carry all that extra weight The bigger pans make sense if you are using the OMP from the pan. = I made my custom pan at 8-quarts for that reason; but when I go to = premix I'll probably carry 5-6. My 'low oil' light comes on below about = 4 quarts. BTW; is there an issue with a bit of mineral based oil mixed in = with the synthetic? When I drain the oil there is still about =BD quart = in the oil cooler, and I'm sure some in other lines and other places. Al=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0215_01C89068.B22EA8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry, guys----I'm new to the rotary = game and keep=20 trying to decipher some of the abbreviations you use, e.g., BIA, MMO, = & OMP=20 refer to...??? Paul

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From:=20 Tracy=20 Crook

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 = 3:22=20 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = 2-stroke=20 oil

For the premix oil I use any good BIA cert. TCW-3 2-stroke oil = mixed=20 50-50 with MMO both of which come from Walmart. Any of the = Redline=20 2-stroke oils would be excellent, including the snomobile stuff.

Let us know if you notice any change when you go to premix. = My old=20 1988 RX-7 felt spunkier when I started using premix in it but it was = an old=20 150K mile beater.

The bottle says Mobile 1 is compatible with standard mineral oil = so I'm=20 sure a bit of the old stuff in the system won't hurt.

Ignore my rantings on big oil pans and go flying :>)

Tracy

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Al Gietzen = <ALVentures@cox.net> = wrote:

I go for the 15W - 50 Mobile 1 = cause it has=20 more Zinc for the gears & bearings than the lighter = weights. =20 Straight 40W Redline would be even better but I can't get it = at=20 Walmart and I'm cheap.

Tracy;

What = 2-stroke oil=20 do you use, and can you get it at Walmart? I note that Redline = has a=20 number of different 2-stroke oils, the gallon size for snowmobiles = being the=20 least expensive. Would that work?

BTW, I use a 4=20 qt sump even on the 20B. I don't understand the appeal of = great big=20 oil pans. Why carry all that extra weight

The = bigger pans=20 make sense if you are using the OMP from the pan. I made my = custom=20 pan at 8-quarts for that reason; but when I go to premix I'll = probably=20 carry 5-6. My 'low oil' light comes on below about 4=20 quarts.

BTW; = is there=20 an issue with a bit of mineral based oil mixed in with the=20 synthetic? When I drain the oil there is still about =BD = quart in the=20 oil cooler, and I'm sure some in other lines and other=20 places.

Al=20

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