X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with ESMTP id 2820055 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:33:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=199.185.220.240; envelope-from=tlc2@telus.net Received: from priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net ([205.206.25.162]) by priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.02 201-2186-121-104-20070414) with ESMTP id <20080327073253.TWWD10126.priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:32:53 -0600 Received: from b3t4f1 (d205-206-25-162.abhsia.telus.net [205.206.25.162]) by priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with SMTP id ACW541Q5CC for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <002c01c88fe5$2bb31ae0$a219cecd@ab.hsia.telus.net> From: "Tim C" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 2-stroke oil Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:32:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C88FAA.7C37C0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C88FAA.7C37C0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Around 15yrs ago, there was a very good article on Pennzoil 2 cycle Oil = in SA Experimenter.....A lot of us Ultralight guy's back then started = using it. http://www.pennzoil.com/products/outdoor/2cycle_aircooled.html & Synthetic.......PDF file at each for Tech data http://www.pennzoil.com/products/marine/100pcSynth2cycle.html Tim ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2-stroke oil For the premix oil I use any good BIA cert. TCW-3 2-stroke oil mixed = 50-50 with MMO both of which come from Walmart. Any of the Redline = 2-stroke oils would be excellent, including the snomobile stuff. Let us know if you notice any change when you go to premix. My old = 1988 RX-7 felt spunkier when I started using premix in it but it was an = old 150K mile beater. The bottle says Mobile 1 is compatible with standard mineral oil so = I'm sure a bit of the old stuff in the system won't hurt. =20 Ignore my rantings on big oil pans and go flying :>) Tracy On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Al Gietzen = wrote: I go for the 15W - 50 Mobile 1 cause it has more Zinc for the = gears & bearings than the lighter weights. Straight 40W Redline would = be even better but I can't get it at Walmart and I'm cheap. Tracy; What 2-stroke oil do you use, and can you get it at Walmart? I note = that Redline has a number of different 2-stroke oils, the gallon size = for snowmobiles being the least expensive. Would that work? BTW, I use a 4 qt sump even on the 20B. I don't understand the = appeal of great big oil pans. Why carry all that extra weight The bigger pans make sense if you are using the OMP from the pan. = I made my custom pan at 8-quarts for that reason; but when I go to = premix I'll probably carry 5-6. My 'low oil' light comes on below about = 4 quarts. BTW; is there an issue with a bit of mineral based oil mixed in = with the synthetic? When I drain the oil there is still about =BD quart = in the oil cooler, and I'm sure some in other lines and other places. Al=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C88FAA.7C37C0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Around 15yrs ago, there was a very good = article on=20 Pennzoil 2 cycle Oil in SA Experimenter.....A lot of us Ultralight guy's = back=20 then started using it.

h= ttp://www.pennzoil.com/products/outdoor/2cycle_aircooled.html<= /DIV>

& Synthetic.......PDF file at each = for Tech=20 data

ht= tp://www.pennzoil.com/products/marine/100pcSynth2cycle.html

Tim

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Tracy=20 Crook

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 = 1:22=20 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = 2-stroke=20 oil

For the premix oil I use any good BIA cert. TCW-3 2-stroke oil = mixed=20 50-50 with MMO both of which come from Walmart. Any of the = Redline=20 2-stroke oils would be excellent, including the snomobile stuff.

Let us know if you notice any change when you go to premix. = My old=20 1988 RX-7 felt spunkier when I started using premix in it but it was = an old=20 150K mile beater.

The bottle says Mobile 1 is compatible with standard mineral oil = so I'm=20 sure a bit of the old stuff in the system won't hurt.

Ignore my rantings on big oil pans and go flying :>)

Tracy

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Al Gietzen = <ALVentures@cox.net> = wrote:

I go for the 15W - 50 Mobile 1 = cause it has=20 more Zinc for the gears & bearings than the lighter = weights. =20 Straight 40W Redline would be even better but I can't get it = at=20 Walmart and I'm cheap.

Tracy;

What = 2-stroke oil=20 do you use, and can you get it at Walmart? I note that Redline = has a=20 number of different 2-stroke oils, the gallon size for snowmobiles = being the=20 least expensive. Would that work?

BTW, I use a 4=20 qt sump even on the 20B. I don't understand the appeal of = great big=20 oil pans. Why carry all that extra weight

The = bigger pans=20 make sense if you are using the OMP from the pan. I made my = custom=20 pan at 8-quarts for that reason; but when I go to premix I'll = probably=20 carry 5-6. My 'low oil' light comes on below about 4=20 quarts.

BTW; = is there=20 an issue with a bit of mineral based oil mixed in with the=20 synthetic? When I drain the oil there is still about =BD = quart in the=20 oil cooler, and I'm sure some in other lines and other=20 places.

Al=20

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