X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com ([64.233.178.251] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with ESMTP id 2818839 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:18:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.178.251; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id x43so3395888hsb.3 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:17:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=LX7f3Pmny5aA/WAeoRx+QzCGCMCQuJJX7cU4SkYWwUM=; b=RE/tfkiEN78eubr5d9i6wO+eLucP97L6Y7BXghfd1jTIDU1MJT+BttjPPR4iTtegnsssIOK1CLMxlzddcFcvKWRkhPC8C7YPGZz4PGFoMgUPGRCrXHta7XkWl5RztRNMOUF8I2SWUOO2VFaq/U2RqwdTl9JWKh0E0ZsEX8rsPyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CMZuk47WGBxmjhOU6BUo093gu5TUBEejpYQpCG20kK7b4ayPuDexMMCWm55Egu3cE1zTs9NcEsXXcfsAzYxy0pmKxU108pq5fD3gG92uqsv5yqC/iAdhkQJ9ZLYhqru/Z/ZkvZ6RRvMRdqoB2jhH+GgxiRLoKBGH+GJLKY2XHbc= Received: by 10.100.201.16 with SMTP id y16mr2854anf.72.1206541070319; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.133.10 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0803260717y715f19a4l441132ddafe97fbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:17:50 -0400 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Change Interval In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16099_8180615.1206541070289" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: afcc0499d957a539 ------=_Part_16099_8180615.1206541070289 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline No sweat, I'm just paranoid about weight Mark. Even the thought of putting an extra couple of bolts on the engine to plug those oil injection holes bothers me I do appreciate your concern for the gearbox since I worry about each and every one that goes out. I had to cringe when I saw that setup at the last Rotary Roundup fly-in with the 275 HP V6 outboard engine & RD-1C. He used the engine oiling system to lube the drive but that engine had only 15 psi and it was 2-stroke oil. I liked the basic idea (I flew an 135 HP OMC in another life) but a separate oiling system is needed. Tracy On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: > Tracy, > > I just don't want to destroy the gearbox because I didn't change the oil > often enough. Sounds like a plan. > > Mark S. > > > On 3/25/08, Tracy Crook wrote: > > > > Lynn's got it right in my view. If your're looking for a number, I > > change between 50 and 70 hours using Synthetic. I go for the 15W - 50 > > Mobile 1 cause it has more Zinc for the gears & bearings than the lighter > > weights. Straight 40W Redline would be even better but I can't get it at > > Walmart and I'm cheap. > > > > BTW, I use a 4 qt sump even on the 20B. I don't understand the appeal > > of great big oil pans. Why carry all that extra weight? Even if it means > > changing oil more often, I'd go for a smaller pan. On a related subject, I > > get asked all the time about G-forces affecting oil pickup in the pan in an > > airplane and the need for a deeper, bigger pan. My standard answer is that > > your grandmothers station wagon experiences more lateral G than your > > airplane ever will (unless you happen to be Sean Tucker). > > > > Sorry for the sermon, I just got asked that again . > > > > Tracy > > > ------=_Part_16099_8180615.1206541070289 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
No sweat, I'm just paranoid about weight Mark.   Even the thought of putting an extra couple of bolts on the engine to plug those oil injection holes bothers me <G>
 
I do appreciate your concern for the gearbox since I worry about each and every one that goes out.  I had to cringe when I saw that setup at the last Rotary Roundup fly-in with the 275 HP V6 outboard engine & RD-1C.  He used the engine oiling system to lube the drive but that engine had only 15 psi and it was 2-stroke oil.  
 
I liked the basic idea (I flew an 135 HP OMC in another life) but a separate oiling system is needed.
Tracy
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Tracy,
 
I just don't want to destroy the gearbox because I didn't change the oil often enough.  Sounds like a plan. 
 
Mark S.

 
On 3/25/08, Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com> wrote:
Lynn's got it right in my view.  If your're looking for a number, I change between 50 and 70 hours using Synthetic.  I go for the 15W - 50 Mobile 1 cause it has more Zinc for the gears & bearings than the lighter weights.  Straight 40W  Redline would be even better but I can't get it at Walmart and I'm cheap.
 
BTW, I use a 4 qt sump even on the 20B.  I don't understand the appeal of great big oil pans.  Why carry all that extra weight?    Even if it means changing oil more often, I'd go for a smaller pan.   On a related subject, I get asked all the time about G-forces affecting oil pickup in the pan in an airplane and the need for a deeper, bigger pan.  My standard answer is that your grandmothers station wagon experiences more lateral G than your airplane ever will (unless you happen to be Sean Tucker). 
 
Sorry for the sermon, I just got asked that again <G>.
 
Tracy
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