X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with ESMTP id 2813321 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:06:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20080322160528.CUWD28190.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:05:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c88c36$a11aa620$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: I think I screwed up Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:06:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C88C15.19D217A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C88C15.19D217A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, Chuck Dunlap had the pin fall out over the Grand Canyon region - = managed to get it onto a road after dodging a truck with minimal damage. = Pin had worked loose and fallen into the intake port - chewed up the = rotor. I would take ALL the mechanism related to the aux valve and epoxy the = vacated region smooth - that is what I did on my 86 N/A. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: I think I screwed up Ernest, Also, don't forget the failure (can't recall who it was) that was = caused by the pin in the actuator falling out and being ingested by the = engine. =20 Mark S. On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Tracy Crook = wrote: I don't understand the problem. The ONLY reason to leave the insert = in after streamlining it with epoxy is (as I did on my first engine) to = avoid taking the engine apart. I had to take that junkyard engine = apart later anyway because of BIG oil burning (cooked oil control = O-rings). My take on it - Leave it alone and drive on. Tracy On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Ernest Christley = wrote: I think Chris and I are getting into a battle to see who can = destroy the most rotary parts the fastest. I mixed up some JB-Weld and aluminum powder to fill in the upper = runner on my side housings. I'm using the 6-port, which usually caries = an insert in the upper runner. The insert ends with a flat wall, so = the SOP is to fill it in with some epoxy to form a smooth curve into = the chamber. Knuckle-head that I am, I just filled in the end of the runner, = not the insert. I didn't notice until I was checking the profile of the = rear side housing to make sure that it matched the front. That was = AFTER the JBWeld had set, of course. The question now is "Will the slightly larger diameter for those = two inches make a noticable difference in the engines performance?" = If the answer is what I think it is, I have the option of using a front = housing that has a little more wear, or dig out the JBWeld and get an = insert. (Does anyone have an extra lying around? -- http://www.ronpaultimeline.com -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C88C15.19D217A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah, Chuck Dunlap had the pin fall out = over the=20 Grand Canyon region - managed to get it onto a road after dodging a = truck with=20 minimal damage. Pin had worked loose and fallen into the intake = port =20 - chewed up the rotor.

I would take ALL the mechanism related = to the aux=20 valve and epoxy the vacated region smooth - that is what I did on = my 86=20 N/A.

Ed

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Mark = Steitle=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft

Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 = 11:21=20 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: I = think I=20 screwed up

Ernest,

Also, don't forget the failure (can't = recall who=20 it was) that was caused by the pin in the actuator falling out and = being=20 ingested by the engine.

Mark S.

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Tracy Crook = <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>= =20 wrote:

I don't understand the problem. The ONLY reason to leave = the=20 insert in after streamlining it with epoxy is (as I did on my first = engine)=20 to avoid taking the engine apart. I had to take that = junkyard=20 engine apart later anyway because of BIG oil burning (cooked = oil=20 control O-rings).

My take on it - Leave it alone and drive on.

Tracy

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Ernest = Christley=20 <echristley@nc.rr.com> wrote:

I=20 think Chris and I are getting into a battle to see who can destroy = the
most rotary parts the fastest.

I mixed up some = JB-Weld and=20 aluminum powder to fill in the upper runner
on my side = housings.=20 I'm using the 6-port, which usually caries an
insert in = the upper=20 runner. The insert ends with a flat wall, so the
SOP is = to fill=20 it in with some epoxy to form a smooth curve into=20 the
chamber.

Knuckle-head that I am, I just filled in = the end of=20 the runner, not the
insert. I didn't notice until I was = checking=20 the profile of the rear
side housing to make sure that it = matched the=20 front. That was AFTER the
JBWeld had set, of = course.

The=20 question now is "Will the slightly larger diameter for those = two
inches=20 make a noticable difference in the engines performance?" If=20 the
answer is what I think it is, I have the option of using a = front=20 housing
that has a little more wear, or dig out the = JBWeld=20 and get an insert.
(Does anyone have an extra lying=20 around?

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