X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2717812 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:25:27 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.162.178; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o28so1127584ele.1 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:24:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=SWDUCPkVspo72gIj6w0dkvpnjjh5S3FzyVnJTPkQhVQ=; b=pZBpHJH2N/TAv9Ua+m7/omz2eK5T9Izkb2cf37Sy5NHraIFa+XrNQ2nhUbuH4ealIP0xinv2zudaKIK5WXVXIEuKBKZ0Js90JKJAEGhjirdskz/kidbgjlI2ucC192W7UnRqw2SrAGA2mZN9aPhdy7k+zNyPELPFqrKvzHfq0aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fHd3KHwcAY4kncSFqMuq2C8w/eI1TcZdcyojrhXTJzvxyTjZkoJtRj/qti1uLsmLfiymRwPPQyI5FrMKx+S8NMMAg6mwZ8mULxTdWL5a/Ol9mEL0EgSHLSE1mRk/d7d4eu0QExsFbQq8nzpycA1n7GuTiVhhtzdq229Ba95fhcs= Received: by 10.142.48.14 with SMTP id v14mr5466051wfv.121.1202318686709; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.20.3 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:24:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5cf132c0802060924y1e67f358h3d86ee420a4bada5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:24:46 -0600 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B rotors / Renesis sensor wiring change In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20645_26722842.1202318686665" References: ------=_Part_20645_26722842.1202318686665 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Al, I would love to see 9.5 gph in cruise. The very best I've been able to get was about 12 gph. No, haven't followed the procedure spelled out in the EM-2 manual. But the "fuel remaining" after adding fuel is pretty close to what the fuel gauges show. I know this isn't very accurate, but it will have to do until I do the formal calibration. Tracy gave me a rule-of-thumb for fuel burn. He said the rotary will burn about 10 gph per 100 hp (.60 bsfc). Based on that rule-of-thumb, I would expect to see about 26-30 gph during full throttle, high rpm operations. I know this is a very simplistic analysis, but it seems to be in line with other engines in this hp range. Mark On 2/6/08, Al Gietzen wrote: > > > > Yes, the 20B can be a thirsty beast. My EM-2 registers 26gph on > initial climb. It will drop down to 12.5 - 16 gph in cruise, depending on > MAP, prop speed and mixture. > > Mark > > > > Mark; > > > > Have you done EM2 calibration checks against measured fuel use? I ask > because I see about 20 gph on climb out and cruise at about 9.5 gph at > 5300-5400 rpm. Last check showed the measured fuel and EM2 agreeing pretty > closely. > > > > Al > ------=_Part_20645_26722842.1202318686665 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Al,
I would love to see 9.5 gph in cruise.  The very best I've been able to get was about 12 gph.  No, haven't followed the procedure spelled out in the EM-2 manual.  But the "fuel remaining" after adding fuel is pretty close to what the fuel gauges show.  I know this isn't very accurate, but it will have to do until I do the formal calibration. 
 
Tracy gave me a rule-of-thumb for fuel burn.  He said the rotary will burn about 10 gph per 100 hp (.60 bsfc).  Based on that rule-of-thumb, I would expect to see about 26-30 gph during full throttle, high rpm operations.  I know this is a very simplistic analysis, but it seems to be in line with other engines in this hp range.
 
Mark
 
 

 
On 2/6/08, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:

 

Yes, the 20B can be a thirsty beast.  My EM-2 registers 26gph on initial climb.  It will drop down to 12.5 - 16 gph in cruise, depending on MAP, prop speed and mixture.

Mark

 

Mark;

 

Have you done EM2 calibration checks against measured fuel use?  I ask because I see about 20 gph on climb out and cruise at about 9.5 gph at 5300-5400 rpm.  Last check showed the measured fuel and EM2 agreeing pretty closely.

 

Al


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