X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTP id 2634438 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:27:22 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.8; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.d22.17175e8c (37047) for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail-me11 (webmail-me11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.203]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB035-90b7478244ab3d2; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:26:35 -0500 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: non flamable brake fluid-compatable Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:26:36 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 65.161.241.3 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wrjjrs@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CA1F58D36A1CBA_13F8_8AB_webmail-me11.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33706-STANDARD Received: from 65.161.241.3 by webmail-me11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.203) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:26:36 -0500 Message-Id: <8CA1F58D36A1CBA-13F8-43F@webmail-me11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO ----------MB_8CA1F58D36A1CBA_13F8_8AB_webmail-me11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ironicly Lynn, Carbon fiber brakes and pads both came from aircraft. BIG aircraft! Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Lehanover@aol.com To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 3:22 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: non flamable brake fluid-compatable In a message dated 1/3/2008 7:26:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes: Mark, ACI is the place where I ordered my PRF 83282 after my brake fire back in 2005. I could not find it anyplace at the time where you could get a quantity less than 1 gallon.? Most FBO appear not interested and are sticking with the more flammable 5606 - I mean there is no point in switching if you're never going to have a hydraulic oil fire {:>).? The 83282 flash point is over 200F higher than that of the 5606 ? Ed If you mount a single piston slider style caliper, provision must be made to allow for the caliper to move when cycled. It slides a bit in the bracket, just like the ones on cars. The hard line must end with a bulkhead fitting in a rigid bracket on the landing gear. A flex line runs to the caliper to allow for the movement. With no flex line, the hard line will fail from metal fatigue. Some folks add a loop to the hard line next to the caliper?hoping that will be enough. It didn't work on th HUMVEE and it won't work on an airplane.Try some Lockheed 550 racing brake fluid from the hot rod shop. Compatible with almost any seals 550 degree wet boiling point.. ? If you really like to turn the rotors orange, and have sparks trailing you down the center line, Try Willwood 600 racing brake fluid. 600 degree wet boiling point used in braking systems where a coolant pump runs the fluid through a cooler when line pressure is down. Fix the installation?and quit using flammable brake fluids. ? Soak an old set of seals in the stuff before using it. ? No brakes can be as bad as no brakes and a fire. Carbon fiber race pads would be great on airplanes. Feels solid. Lasts a long time. Pretty cheap. Shine up the rotors like chrome. No gouges. Maintain braking effect right through bright orange. No brake fade from over temps.? ? Lynn E. Hanover ? ? ???? Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ----------MB_8CA1F58D36A1CBA_13F8_8AB_webmail-me11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Ironicly Lynn, Carbon fiber brakes and pads both came from aircraft. BIG aircraft!
Bill Jepson


-----Original Message-----
From: Lehanover@aol.com
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 3:22 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: non flamable brake fluid-compatable

In a message dated 1/3/2008 7:26:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:
Mark, ACI is the place where I ordered my PRF 83282 after my brake fire back in 2005.
I could not find it anyplace at the time where you could get a quantity less than 1 gallon.  Most FBO appear not interested and are sticking with the more flammable 5606 - I mean there is no point in switching if you're never going to have a hydraulic oil fire {:>).  The 83282 flash point is over 200F higher than that of the 5606
 
Ed
If you mount a single piston slider style caliper, provision must be made to allow for the caliper to move when cycled. It slides a bit in the bracket, just like the ones on cars. The hard line must end with a bulkhead fitting in a rigid bracket on the landing gear. A flex line runs to the caliper to allow for the movement. With no flex line, the hard line will fail from metal fatigue. Some folks add a loop to the hard line next to the caliper hoping that will be enough. It didn't work on th HUMVEE and it won't work on an airplane.Try some Lockheed 550 racing brake fluid from the hot rod shop. Compatible with almost any seals 550 degree wet boiling point..
 
If you really like to turn the rotors orange, and have sparks trailing you down the center line, Try Willwood
600 racing brake fluid. 600 degree wet boiling point used in braking systems where a coolant pump runs the fluid through a cooler when line pressure is down. Fix the installation and quit using flammable brake fluids.
 
Soak an old set of seals in the stuff before using it.
 
No brakes can be as bad as no brakes and a fire. Carbon fiber race pads would be great on airplanes. Feels solid. Lasts a long time. Pretty cheap. Shine up the rotors like chrome. No gouges. Maintain braking effect right through bright orange. No brake fade from over temps. 
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
 
    



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