X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTP id 2632797 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:27:54 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.52; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from fwebmail14.isp.att.net ([204.127.221.114]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20080106052714H0200ak99re>; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 05:27:14 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.127.221.114] Received: from [64.136.27.229] by fwebmail14.isp.att.net; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:27:13 +0000 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Carbon fiber brake pad Fabrication Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:27:13 +0000 Message-Id: <010620080527.26018.478066B10000955E000065A222230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B040A05@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26018_1199597233_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26018_1199597233_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lynn, I presume the Aero Commander pads were round and you cut a round pad (backing plate and all) from the chevy pad........How did you fasten this to the Commander backing plate or is the pad captured and you just used the resulting chevy puck and backing plate after trimming to size on the lathe ??.......General aviation pads are usually not round but if an auto pad of approx the same thickness as the a/c pad were sourced a little cutting,grinding and drilling might produce super pads for our a/c !!........IMHO......... What do you and the group think ??...... -- Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold -------------- Original message from Lehanover@aol.com: -------------- In a message dated 1/5/2008 9:52:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ceengland@bellsouth.net writes: Hmmm...Can you buy raw carbon fiber pad stock? If so, it should be easy to cut/drill to fit standard Cleveland/Matco backing plates & just mount using the standard rivets. Are carbon pads riveted to the backplates in automotive applications, like they are in aviation brakes? Charlie I made a set for a Aero Commander from a set of Chevy brake pads. The airplane pad looked like a bunch of kids made it. Two brass rivets holding the material onto a steel backing plate. I sawed them out with a hole saw and trimmed them up in the lathe. No rivets. Car pads are glued on. It was a very flexible single piston slider. Best brakes he ever had. Less than the usual $100.00 each. You can buy Carbon Metallic pads for any car at the Autozone. On the race car it was like going from almost no brakes, to Amazing brakes. When a competitor comes by and says " thought you were dead when you went by me under braking. I couldn't believe you made that corner". The only brakes better than that are carbon pads on a carbon disc. Like a Formula one car. Lynn E. Hanover . --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26018_1199597233_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Lynn,

I presume the Aero Commander pads were round and you cut a

round pad (backing plate and all) from the chevy pad........How

did you fasten this to the Commander backing plate or is the pad

captured and you just used the resulting chevy puck and backing

plate after trimming to size on the lathe ??.......General aviation

pads are usually not round but if an auto pad of approx the same

thickness as the a/c pad were sourced a little cutting,grinding and

drilling might produce super pads for our a/c !!........IMHO.........

What do you and the group think ??......

--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

-------------- Original message from Lehanover@aol.com: --------------

In a message dated 1/5/2008 9:52:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ceengland@bellsouth.net writes:

Hmmm...Can you buy raw carbon fiber pad stock? If so, it should be easy
to cut/drill to fit standard Cleveland/Matco backing plates & just mount
using the standard rivets. Are carbon pads riveted to the backplates in
automotive applications, like they are in aviation brakes?

Charlie

I made a set for a Aero Commander from a set of Chevy brake pads. The airplane pad looked like a bunch of kids made it. Two brass rivets holding the material onto a steel backing plate. I sawed them out with a hole saw and trimmed them up in the lathe. No rivets. Car pads are glued on. It was a very flexible single piston slider. Best brakes he ever had. Less than the usual $100.00 each.

You can buy Carbon Metallic pads for any car at the Autozone.

On the race car it was like going from almost no brakes, to Amazing brakes. When a competitor comes by and says " thought you were dead when you went by me under braking. I couldn't believe you made that corner".

The only brakes better than that are carbon pads on a carbon disc. Like a Formula one car.

Lynn E. Hanover

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