X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2607809 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:43:08 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.14.220.155; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so89091fga.1 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:42:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=akif+gWc1LdsraXdXiy2rpGgKognBUO8A1YvYNklcY8=; b=rfPcn3a31prz30YB+0rKaajvf18DoUQlH0O1BwOvsJnsxmJjjuMm+kNzvRLUsZLYXo+NOkEFVNp7i4HRAgfaIxgpOemhhi+BO/86HuGcQ3CDzzgqwJehVS1ocJamsiKhcYGfy1fPE89fd5bHdWWwwesJhL5dJoAUu94AD5nfz1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=xd53cu3+fzhiOzOMEZdC/wTQYgAE+2b3rMcVlaI9EEQOo7cxl+PUhrRzSpEGW5n6rNVy9wAWa6ldYRbkl5Bb3WuTDNae721pU0HDkEu84kpHUs275tLBpJMRKRb6hr4tepUYfwtJen2jPWC8Y2Ceag+VH0Bp0GXoKcKCXMW09Ho= Received: by 10.86.28.5 with SMTP id b5mr730542fgb.47.1198212146612; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.63.9 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:42:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c23473f0712202042n1762d53ex567e97b3d766fd74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:42:26 -0800 From: "David Leonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fw: Give A Head Start to Your Car with our Electric Supercharger!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1144_11253998.1198212146598" References: ------=_Part_1144_11253998.1198212146598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline OK, here is another company that seems to be selling the same supercharger at the same price: http://www.electricchargers.com/ at least they have an address (Tacoma, WA) and a phone number to call for further info. Here are some video of people playing with them... Launching beer cans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGQ-Xsj7hE4&NR=1 6 psi of static boost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6kvkR_NX8w&NR=1 *Here is a similar company* with* more info* and a different product. Specifically, they have much more realistic claims, looks to be a compact size as well. I think this is the real deal. http://www.electricsupercharger.com/products-eram.html Here is the report (from a different website) of a guy who put one of those on his NSX: http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/superchargers.htm No need to add an extra battery Ed, If you are just using short bursts it will draw off your current battery. Here is a guy who tried to build his own out of a Marine blower... did not work, tiny little motor so probably not a fair comparison: http://homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/el_blower/index.html Finally, here is a Q and A from a guy who built his own for real racing... won't apply to us, but he did it right (just does not say how) http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight_turbo_electric_supercharger/index.html Dave Leonard On Dec 20, 2007 6:57 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: > This is the response I got from Thorton Electric Supercharger. I > specifically asked for weight which is not given. You be da judge. > > Ed > > > Hi, > > > > Yes, we do have the specific model of supercharger package you need for > > your Mazda Rx-7. > > > > We personally guarantee 30% gains in horsepower and torque. Your actual > > gains will depend on your existing engine conditions. > > > > The price of one supercharger and complete package including shipping > > comes out to US$124.95 for customers outside of the USA, USA customers > > will pay US$109.95. > > > > Extraneous testing sources indicate the following results : > > > > Air Flow: 1100CFM > > Pressure: 8 PSI > > Motor Speed: 25000 RPM > > Current: 50 AMPS > > Power Consumption: 600 Watts > > > > The installation instructions that are included with your order will > > explain how to do a professional install in a matter of a couple hours. > > The supercharger will hook in parallel with your intake, and the > > performance chip will hook up in parallel with your ECU. > > > > > > Delivery will take 1-2 weeks. > > > > > > If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. > > > > thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Contact Us > >> From: eanderson@carolina.rr.com > >> Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 9:32 am > >> To: sales@electricsupercharger.net > >> > >> Name: Ed Anderson (Rotary_Ed) > >> Car Make : Mazda Car Model : Rx-7 > >> Car Year: 1991 E-mail address : eanderson@carolina.rr.com > >> Enter question or concerns here : I can find no > specifications > >> for your product on your website. Have I simply missed it? Interested > in > >> technical details such as weight, size, power requirements, compressor > >> maps suitable for RX-7 Rotary engine use.ThanksRotary_Ed > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_Part_1144_11253998.1198212146598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline OK, here is another company that seems to be selling the same supercharger at the same price:
http://www.electricchargers.com/
at least they have an address (Tacoma, WA) and a phone number to call for further info.

Here are some video of people playing with them...

Launching beer cans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGQ-Xsj7hE4&NR=1

6 psi of static boost:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6kvkR_NX8w&NR=1

Here is a similar company with more info and a different product.  Specifically, they have much more realistic claims, looks to be a compact size as well.  I think this is the real deal.

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/products-eram.html

Here is the report (from a different website) of a guy who put one of those on his NSX:

http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/superchargers.htm

No need to add an extra battery Ed,  If you are just using short bursts it will draw off your current battery.

Here is a guy who tried to build his own out of a Marine blower...  did not work,  tiny little motor so probably not a fair comparison:

http://homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/el_blower/index.html

Finally, here is a Q and A from a guy who built his own for real racing...  won't apply to us, but he did it right (just does not say how)

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight_turbo_electric_supercharger/index.html


Dave Leonard

On Dec 20, 2007 6:57 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
 This is the response I got from Thorton Electric Supercharger.  I
specifically asked for weight which is not given.  You be da judge.

Ed

> Hi,
>
> Yes, we do have the specific model of supercharger package you need for
> your Mazda Rx-7.
>
> We personally guarantee 30% gains in horsepower and torque.  Your actual
> gains will depend on your existing engine conditions.
>
> The price of one supercharger and complete package including shipping
> comes out to US$124.95 for customers outside of the USA, USA customers
> will pay US$109.95.
>
> Extraneous testing sources indicate the following results :
>
> Air Flow:  1100CFM
> Pressure:   8 PSI
> Motor Speed:  25000 RPM
> Current:   50 AMPS
> Power Consumption:  600 Watts
>
> The installation instructions that are included with your order will
> explain how to do a professional install in a matter of a couple hours.
> The supercharger will hook in parallel with your intake, and the
> performance chip will hook up in parallel with your ECU.
>
>
> Delivery will take 1-2 weeks.
>
>
> If you have any further questions, feel free to ask.
>
> thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Contact Us
>> From: eanderson@carolina.rr.com
>> Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 9:32 am
>> To: sales@electricsupercharger.net
>>
>> Name: Ed Anderson (Rotary_Ed)
>>              Car Make :  Mazda              Car Model :  Rx-7
>> Car Year:  1991          E-mail address :  eanderson@carolina.rr.com
>> Enter question or concerns here :           I can find no specifications
>> for your product on your website. Have I simply missed it? Interested in
>> technical details such as weight, size, power requirements, compressor
>> maps suitable for RX-7 Rotary engine use.ThanksRotary_Ed
>


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