X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2607759 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:36:37 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.14.220.159; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so79039fga.1 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lgBOdO4Y7z6B8PVcu6fsg45GjaH18MTiyKQAENqnKlE=; b=KSmno4lw3e+WU27RJdbfOabO+C5LBJkwCI8j2xNiUK3PELU8fXSmsOwcRS8zmfAPTZ5GmMw1H0NnKB0/0idXIqQsNpY/53heYXAWe9uOFR3VUnGm+2y5yZmwAkgduOFLXVYOxF141Wstw9ILbC1yrFEK9btjPQExRwcqlutOBQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NpwCDwDfebRJvXAxC9p/TAAJ0+YgHdQdoqdeHbQy7sBd6COt86+K/9F9r/aF4fe7F6xCyQMvEmEvNcEWovBWrguQN0fCgzakL0KIflG/7jlx8PYbWjiSRaYsv3u0gcKqd0XjRabLQm8pMROEr33/z5mBjk4Zyis0Cm18oQiFvBg= Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr679675fgb.27.1198208157336; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.63.9 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c23473f0712201935j7604a0b2v25b956bf81fbc46e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:35:57 -0800 From: "David Leonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Supercharging In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1032_20401676.1198208157322" References: ------=_Part_1032_20401676.1198208157322 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Renisis shemisis. Put in a 16B Ed!!!! That will show em! Dave Leonard On Dec 20, 2007 7:10 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: > Same thing I received even though mine was supposedly for a Rx-7 rotary > engine. So appears their system is universal {:>). I am just amazed at how > much they offer for $99.50. > > Ok, who is going to be the first to order one and let us know? > > David Leonard, suggested either go for full time power (like in a > real turbocharger) or forget it and don't muck around with this part time > power enhancement. Has a good point. Yes, I get in and out of short fields > just fine with my N/A 13B - but, I just really like getting all that space > between my butt and those tree tops as I can {:>). > > But, I fairly certain that I will save my shekels for an N/A Renesis > engine rather than turbo my old 13B. I mean with 20 more HP from the N/A > Renesis - it will almost be enough {:>) > > Ed > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Greg Ward > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:26 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Supercharging > > Just received this: Threw out my Bimmer as a test case to see what they > would come back with. By the way, they also enclose a supposed "performance > chip" for the computer to adjust for the blower's requirements. Cheapest > chip I have found that will work in a BMW, is around $200-$300, and you > better know who burned it. > Greg > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:24 PM > Subject: Give A Head Start to Your Car with our Electric Supercharger!! > > > Hi, > > > > Yes, we do have the specific model of supercharger package you need for > your BMW 323i 2000. > > > > We personally guarantee 30% gains in horsepower and torque. Your actual > gains will depend on your existing engine conditions. > > > > The price of one supercharger and complete package including shipping > comes out to US$124.95 for customers outside of the USA, USA customers will > pay US$109.95. > > > > Extraneous testing sources indicate the following results : > > > > Air Flow: 1100CFM > > Pressure: 8 PSI > > Motor Speed: 25000 RPM > > Current: 50 AMPS > > Power Consumption: 600 Watts > > > > The installation instructions that are included with your order will > explain how to do a professional install in a matter of a couple hours. The > supercharger will hook in parallel with your intake, and the performance > chip will hook up in parallel with your ECU. > > > > > > Delivery will take 1-2 weeks. > > > > > > If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. > > > > thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Contact Us > >> From: gregw@onestopdesign.biz > >> Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 10:28 am > >> To: sales@electricsupercharger.net > >> > >> Name: Greg Ward > >> Car Make : BMW Car Model : 323i > Car Year: 2000 E-mail address : gregw@onestopdesign.biz > Enter question or concerns here : Will this work on a BMW as > shown. Is that price correct? What's delivery time usually? Could use a > little more spec, like how much electrical power is necessary, and what > happens if the motor fails, will the car continue to run? Skeptic in me, > sorry. Also, will be using a Mazda 13b rotary in my airplane in the spring, > what do you think about aircraft applications?Thanks;Greg Ward > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David Leonard > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:50 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Supercharging > > > > > > I would certainly want to know how long the motor could stand the load > > and heat. It does not appear this is meant for sustained boost, just for > > getting your Mustang from 0-60 quickly then off the boost. But, having 30 > > more HP for take off and initial climbout for 3-5 minutes could be nice to > > have. > > > > LOL, > > yea, these RV's are real dogs. Its so hard to find an airport that is > long enough.. I'm always having to divert to find longer pavement... ;-) > > Face it, you and I want full-time power or fuggaboutit - save the weight, > money and time... > > Water bound and backward airplanes excepted... > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > > -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_Part_1032_20401676.1198208157322 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Renisis shemisis.  Put in a 16B Ed!!!!  That will show em!

Dave Leonard

On Dec 20, 2007 7:10 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com > wrote:
Same thing I received even though mine was supposedly for a Rx-7 rotary engine.  So appears their system is universal {:>).  I am just amazed at how much they offer for $99.50.
 
Ok, who is going to be the first to order one and let us know?
 
David Leonard, suggested either go for full time power (like in a real turbocharger) or forget it and don't muck around with this part time power enhancement.  Has a good point.  Yes, I get in and out of short fields just fine with my N/A 13B - but, I just really like getting all that space between my butt and those tree tops as I can {:>). 
 
But, I fairly certain that I will save my shekels for an N/A  Renesis engine rather than turbo my old 13B.  I mean with  20 more HP from the N/A Renesis - it will almost be enough {:>)
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Ward
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Supercharging

Just received this:  Threw out my Bimmer as a test case to see what they would come back with.  By the way, they also enclose a supposed "performance chip" for the computer to adjust for the blower's requirements.  Cheapest chip I have found that will work in a BMW, is around $200-$300, and you better know who burned it.
Greg
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: Give A Head Start to Your Car with our Electric Supercharger!!

> Hi,
>
> Yes, we do have the specific model of supercharger package you need for your BMW  323i 2000.
>
> We personally guarantee 30% gains in horsepower and torque.  Your actual gains will depend on your existing engine conditions.
>
> The price of one supercharger and complete package including shipping comes out to US$124.95 for customers outside of the USA, USA customers will pay US$109.95. 
>
> Extraneous testing sources indicate the following results :
>
> Air Flow:  1100CFM
> Pressure:   8 PSI
> Motor Speed:  25000 RPM
> Current:   50 AMPS
> Power Consumption:  600 Watts
>
> The installation instructions that are included with your order will explain how to do a professional install in a matter of a couple hours.  The supercharger will hook in parallel with your intake, and the performance chip will hook up in parallel with your ECU.
>
>
> Delivery will take 1-2 weeks.
>
>
> If you have any further questions, feel free to ask.
>
> thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Contact Us
>> From: gregw@onestopdesign.biz
>> Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 10:28 am
>> To: sales@electricsupercharger.net
>>
>> Name: Greg Ward 
>>              Car Make :  BMW              Car Model :  323i            Car Year:  2000          E-mail address :  gregw@onestopdesign.biz              Enter question or concerns here :           Will this work on a BMW as shown. Is that price correct? What's delivery time usually? Could use a little more spec, like how much electrical power is necessary, and what happens if the motor fails, will the car continue to run? Skeptic in me, sorry. Also, will be using a Mazda 13b rotary in my airplane in the spring, what do you think about aircraft applications?Thanks;Greg Ward
>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Supercharging



 
I would certainly want to know how long the motor could stand the load and heat.  It does not appear this is meant for sustained boost, just for getting your Mustang from 0-60 quickly then off the boost.  But, having 30 more HP for take off and initial climbout for 3-5 minutes could be nice to have. 

LOL,

yea, these RV's are real dogs.  Its so hard to find an airport that is long enough..  I'm always having to divert to find longer pavement...  ;-)

Face it, you and I want full-time power or fuggaboutit - save the weight, money and time...

Water bound and backward airplanes excepted...
--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net



--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_Part_1032_20401676.1198208157322--