X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2607731 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:11:11 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([24.74.103.61]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20071221031032.DBVJ29372.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:10:32 +0000 Message-ID: <004b01c8437f$14f4e340$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Supercharging Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:10:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C84355.2BECCEC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C84355.2BECCEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same thing I received even though mine was supposedly for a Rx-7 rotary = engine. So appears their system is universal {:>). I am just amazed at = how much they offer for $99.50. Ok, who is going to be the first to order one and let us know? David Leonard, suggested either go for full time power (like in a real = turbocharger) or forget it and don't muck around with this part time = power enhancement. Has a good point. Yes, I get in and out of short = fields just fine with my N/A 13B - but, I just really like getting all = that space between my butt and those tree tops as I can {:>). =20 But, I fairly certain that I will save my shekels for an N/A Renesis = engine rather than turbo my old 13B. I mean with 20 more HP from the = N/A Renesis - it will almost be enough {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Greg Ward=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:26 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Supercharging Just received this: Threw out my Bimmer as a test case to see what = they would come back with. By the way, they also enclose a supposed = "performance chip" for the computer to adjust for the blower's = requirements. Cheapest chip I have found that will work in a BMW, is = around $200-$300, and you better know who burned it. Greg ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: Give A Head Start to Your Car with our Electric = Supercharger!! > Hi, >=20 > Yes, we do have the specific model of supercharger package you need = for your BMW 323i 2000. >=20 > We personally guarantee 30% gains in horsepower and torque. Your = actual gains will depend on your existing engine conditions.=20 >=20 > The price of one supercharger and complete package including = shipping comes out to US$124.95 for customers outside of the USA, USA = customers will pay US$109.95. =20 >=20 > Extraneous testing sources indicate the following results : >=20 > Air Flow: 1100CFM > Pressure: 8 PSI > Motor Speed: 25000 RPM > Current: 50 AMPS > Power Consumption: 600 Watts >=20 > The installation instructions that are included with your order will = explain how to do a professional install in a matter of a couple hours. = The supercharger will hook in parallel with your intake, and the = performance chip will hook up in parallel with your ECU. >=20 >=20 > Delivery will take 1-2 weeks. >=20 >=20 > If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. >=20 > thanks, > Jeff >=20 >=20 >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Contact Us >> From: gregw@onestopdesign.biz >> Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 10:28 am >> To: sales@electricsupercharger.net >>=20 >> Name: Greg Ward =20 >> Car Make : BMW Car Model : 323i = Car Year: 2000 E-mail address : gregw@onestopdesign.biz = Enter question or concerns here : Will this work on = a BMW as shown. Is that price correct? What's delivery time usually? = Could use a little more spec, like how much electrical power is = necessary, and what happens if the motor fails, will the car continue to = run? Skeptic in me, sorry. Also, will be using a Mazda 13b rotary in my = airplane in the spring, what do you think about aircraft = applications?Thanks;Greg Ward > ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Leonard=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Supercharging I would certainly want to know how long the motor could stand the = load and heat. It does not appear this is meant for sustained boost, = just for getting your Mustang from 0-60 quickly then off the boost. = But, having 30 more HP for take off and initial climbout for 3-5 minutes = could be nice to have. =20 LOL, yea, these RV's are real dogs. Its so hard to find an airport that = is long enough.. I'm always having to divert to find longer pavement... = ;-)=20 Face it, you and I want full-time power or fuggaboutit - save the = weight, money and time... Water bound and backward airplanes excepted... --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C84355.2BECCEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Same thing I received even though mine was = supposedly for=20 a Rx-7 rotary engine.  So appears their system is universal = {:>). =20 I am just amazed at how much they offer for $99.50.
 
Ok, who is going to be the first to order one = and let us=20 know?
 
David Leonard, suggested either go for full time = power=20 (like in a real turbocharger) or forget it and don't muck around = with this=20 part time power enhancement.  Has a good point.  Yes, I get in = and out=20 of short fields just fine with my N/A 13B - but, I just really like = getting all=20 that space between my butt and those tree tops as I can {:>). =20
 
But, I fairly certain that I will save my = shekels for an=20 N/A  Renesis engine rather than turbo my old 13B.  I mean = with =20 20 more HP from the N/A Renesis - it will almost be enough = {:>)
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Greg=20 Ward
Sent: Thursday, December 20, = 2007 9:26=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Supercharging

Just received this:  Threw out my Bimmer = as a test=20 case to see what they would come back with.  By the way, they = also=20 enclose a supposed "performance chip" for the computer to adjust for = the=20 blower's requirements.  Cheapest chip I have found that will work = in a=20 BMW, is around $200-$300, and you better know who burned = it.
Greg
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: <sales@electricsupercharger= .net>
To: <gregw@onestopdesign.biz>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: Give A Head Start to Your Car with our Electric=20 Supercharger!!

> Hi,
>
> Yes, we do have the specific = model of=20 supercharger package you need for your BMW  323i 2000.
> =
>=20 We personally guarantee 30% gains in horsepower and torque.  Your = actual=20 gains will depend on your existing engine conditions.
> =
> The=20 price of one supercharger and complete package including shipping = comes out to=20 US$124.95 for customers outside of the USA, USA customers will pay=20 US$109.95. 
>
> Extraneous testing sources indicate = the=20 following results :
>
> Air Flow:  1100CFM
>=20 Pressure:   8 PSI
> Motor Speed:  25000 = RPM
>=20 Current:   50 AMPS
> Power Consumption:  600=20 Watts
>
> The installation instructions that are included = with=20 your order will explain how to do a professional install in a matter = of a=20 couple hours.  The supercharger will hook in parallel with your = intake,=20 and the performance chip will hook up in parallel with your = ECU.
>=20
>
> Delivery will take 1-2 weeks.
>
> =
> If=20 you have any further questions, feel free to ask.
>
>=20 thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
>> -------- Original = Message=20 --------
>> Subject: Contact Us
>> From: gregw@onestopdesign.biz
&g= t;>=20 Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 10:28 am
>> To: sales@electricsupercharger= .net
>>=20
>> Name: Greg Ward =20 =
>>          &= nbsp;  =20 Car Make : =20 = BMW           &nbs= p; =20 Car Model : =20 323i            = Car=20 Year:  2000          = E-mail=20 address :  gregw@onestopdesign.biz =              = Enter question or concerns here=20 :           Will = this work=20 on a BMW as shown. Is that price correct? What's delivery time = usually? Could=20 use a little more spec, like how much electrical power is necessary, = and what=20 happens if the motor fails, will the car continue to run? Skeptic in = me,=20 sorry. Also, will be using a Mazda 13b rotary in my airplane in the = spring,=20 what do you think about aircraft applications?Thanks;Greg = Ward
>
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Leonard
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Thursday, December 20, = 2007 3:50=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Supercharging



 
I would certainly want to know how long = the motor=20 could stand the load and heat.  It does not appear this is = meant for=20 sustained boost, just for getting your Mustang from 0-60 quickly = then off=20 the boost.  But, having 30 more HP for take off and initial = climbout=20 for 3-5 minutes could be nice to have. =20

LOL,

yea, these=20 RV's are real dogs.  Its so hard to find an airport that is = long=20 enough..  I'm always having to divert to find longer = pavement... =20 ;-)

Face it, you and I want full-time power or fuggaboutit - = save=20 the weight, money and time...

Water bound and backward = airplanes=20 excepted...
--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 = N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.nethttp://RotaryRoster.net=20
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