X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.248] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2284742 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:20:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.132.248; envelope-from=rotary.thjakits@gmail.com Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b2so126654ana for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:19:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RSQ1P/IihqRlH4u7R/ka+Q5lFLMz+XEDvhtk2HBxx1/aSk7poOmluXtlrw9gs3zft1aN8tl4UWsgGPNOSUUle89wu5R5KxtP6RuOt8A73zw4b7W5TliZ3uNxIdcvyOStT2FJvJTCKkhHJqpM0M81j6uVb1RzKXoqNQlgzsByShQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P03N2c2W8AC/CLxMe7+KAjZrvaZbH112qRykOkB1ZIGotVX6EsmlPVyDsAcxpcyh4v8dkGXg7hkLVeA1ueEczSWJlZlJyfbfH4b48X+8iNI3BfUmedkqglUmeS6md+D2ufn+jb/5QNBR+JEgWR6bZ+oDm+2o8IBSOha45gXLm1M= Received: by 10.100.48.7 with SMTP id v7mr554821anv.1188083991322; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.197.17 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63163d560708251619w18dd664bo19d168452a84402@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:19:51 -0500 From: "Thomas Jakits" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] AeroElectric-List: Shakeup at EAA Sport Aviation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_47762_10995500.1188083991295" References: ------=_Part_47762_10995500.1188083991295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline =CC'll wait to see what happens with the new editor. Supposedly the old one got sacked because: a) Had never had a pilot license b) or built anything coming close to an aircraft c) Had no interest in airplane stuff If they don't shape up fast EAA will start bleeding fast - their life blood (members) are leaving.... TJ :( On 8/23/07, M Roberts wrote: > > > Ernest, > I would like to give an input here. I found the latest versions of Sport > Aviation less likeable as well. I went so far as to e-mail up the chain t= o > find out what was going on. (As a chapter Officer I had some direct e-mai= l > addresses) When I got a call from the the EAA I was told that there was a= n > intentional change to make the magazine more "readable". I asked if that > meant it was getting "dumbed down". The amazing answer was YES, WE ARE > INCLUDING ARTICLES THAT SHOULD ONLY REQUIRE AN 8TH GRADE EDUCATION TO > UNDERSTAND! After I recovered from the shock, I was told that we would no= t > be printing any of the CAFE articles anymore, and any tech articles would > need to be able to fit in 1 issue. What BULL BLEEP! When I mentioned that > this was an internal magazine and not being sold to the public, they didn= 't > even appologise and said that was the way it would be "for now". I > understand that many of the members don't want full pages of math, but so= me > do! The magazine should do some of both. While I haven't yet given up my > membership, if a more "homebuilt friendly" organization started and made = it > I would be ready to jump ship, sadly, but I would. FWIW > Bill Jepson > > Well, that does it for me. I've had it. I'm Tired of sending these idiots > any of my hard earned cash. I never have time to make it to the local > chapter meetings anyway. The internet is a better support group. For abou= t 3 > or four years now I have been on the fence. I've written letters. I hardl= y > read the magazine, and when I do it takes me about 5 min. SA isn't fit fo= r > toilet paper. > > I am afraid that EAA is turning into a "Foundation". The foundation world > is filled with a bunch of liberal/socialist leaning folks, who get jobs > doing things with other peoples money. They usually redirect it and use i= t > for things the people who originally formed the organization never would > approve of. I have gotten more and more upset With EAA for a long time no= w. > The last time I was at Oshkosh part of the "patriotic" Rah Rah speech ove= r > the PA said "America where we cherish our freedoms.....(insert list of > American ideals).......Freedom from want....SCREEEEECH" Wait a minute wha= t > was that crap. FREEDOM FROM WANT!!! Strait out of the Communist Manifesto= . > If I hadn't read that disgusting document the prior week, it probably wou= ld > have sailed right over my head as background chatter. Then I started > thinking about the Unionized movers you have to pay if you are a vendor, = the > way they keep raising the prices for small vendors.....etc, etc, etc. > > Then I called one of their "experts" to ask about some FAA rules. He was > clueless, I don't mean a little, I mean completely utterly clueless about > something he was supposed to be representing us about. The FAA guy was > actually far more knowledgeable and helpful. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!!??? > > I can see where this is going........ > > Next thing you know they are going to start pushing for a new tax > on Experimental Aircraft to promote immigrant/female/disabled/gay/retards= to > build airplanes. Kofi Anan will run the new Planes for the disadvantaged > program. Perhaps SA could be published in a graphic novel format so that > people who can't read will not be discriminated against. All Experimental > aircraft will have to be redesigned so that obese people in wheel chairs = who > are blind and have no limbs can operate them. If they can't your > registration will be denied. Also we must have means testing for builder > assistance. Rosy O'Donnell will be the new EAA spokesperson and she will > start the new rainbow eagles for African aids relief program. They will f= ly > over Africa and drop leaflets and condoms. But the name must be changed > because Experimental sounds too dangerous and the word Airplane makes peo= ple > sad that they can't ever afford one since they now cost $1 billon each to > cover all the new programs and regulations. > > Eventually the Egalitarian Ambassadors Association will publish the > graphic art coloring book Social Awareness. > > I guess I'll be sending my money to AOPA. > > Monty > ------=_Part_47762_10995500.1188083991295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
=CC'll wait to see what happens with the new editor.
Supposedly the old one got sacked because:
a) Had never had a pilot license
b) or built anything coming close to an aircraft
c) Had no interest in airplane stuff
 
If they don't shape up fast EAA will start bleeding fast - their l= ife blood (members) are leaving....
 
TJ :(

 
On 8/23/07, = M Roberts <montyr2157@allte= l.net> wrote:
 
Ernest,
 I would like t= o give an input here. I found the latest versions of Sport Aviation le= ss likeable as well. I went so far as to e-mail up the chain to find o= ut what was going on. (As a chapter Officer I had some direct e-mail addres= ses) When I got a call from the the EAA I was told that there was= an intentional change to make the magazine more "readable". I as= ked if that meant it was getting "dumbed down". The amazing = answer was YES, WE ARE INCLUDING ARTICLES THAT SHOULD ONLY REQUIRE AN 8TH G= RADE EDUCATION TO UNDERSTAND! After I recovered from the shock, I was = told that we would not be printing any of the CAFE articles anymore, and an= y tech articles would need to be able to fit in 1 issue. What BULL BLEEP! W= hen I mentioned that this was an internal magazine and not being sold to th= e public, they didn't even appologise and said that was the way it woul= d be "for now". I understand that many of the members don't w= ant full pages of math, but some do! The magazine should do some of both. W= hile I haven't yet given up my membership, if a more "homebuilt fr= iendly" organization started and made it I would be ready to jump ship= , sadly, but I would. FWIW
Bill Jepson
 
Well, that does it for me. I've ha= d it. I'm Tired of sending these idiots any of my hard earned cash. I n= ever have time to make it to the local chapter meetings anyway. The interne= t is a better support group. For about 3 or four years now I have been= on the fence. I've written letters. I hardly read the magazine, and wh= en I do it takes me about 5 min. SA isn't fit for toilet paper.
 
I am afraid that EAA is turning into a= "Foundation". The foundation world is filled with a bunch of lib= eral/socialist leaning folks, who get jobs doing things with other peoples = money. They usually redirect it and use it for things the people who origin= ally formed the organization never would approve of. I have gotten more and= more upset With EAA for a long time now. The last time I was at Oshkosh pa= rt of the "patriotic" Rah Rah speech over the PA said "Ameri= ca where we cherish our freedoms.....(insert list of American ideals)......= .Freedom from want....SCREEEEECH" Wait a minute what was that crap. FR= EEDOM FROM WANT!!! Strait out of the Communist Manifesto. If I hadn= 9;t read that disgusting document the prior week, it probably would ha= ve sailed right over my head as background chatter. Then I started thinking= about the Unionized movers you have to pay if you are a vendor, the way th= ey keep raising the prices for small vendors.....etc, etc, etc.=20
 
Then I called one of their "exper= ts" to ask about some FAA rules. He was clueless, I don't mean a l= ittle, I mean completely utterly clueless about something he was supposed t= o be representing us about. The FAA guy was actually far more knowledgeable= and helpful. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!!???
 
I can see where this is going........<= /font>
 
Next thing you know they are going to = start pushing for a new tax on Experimental Aircraft to promote i= mmigrant/female/disabled/gay/retards to build airplanes. Kofi Anan will run= the new Planes for the disadvantaged program. Perhaps SA could be pub= lished in a graphic novel format so that people who can't read will not= be discriminated against. All Experimental aircraft will have to be redesi= gned so that obese people in wheel chairs who are blind and have no limbs c= an operate them. If they can't your registration will be denied. Also w= e must have means testing for builder assistance.=20 Rosy O'Donnell will be the new E= AA spokesperson and she will start the new rainbow eagles for African = aids relief program. They will fly over Africa and drop leaflets and condom= s. But the name must be changed because Experimental sounds too dangerous a= nd the word Airplane makes people sad that they can't ever afford one s= ince they now cost $1 billon each to cover all the new programs and regulat= ions.
 
Eventually the Egalitarian Ambassadors= Association will publish the graphic art coloring book Social Awareness.&n= bsp;
 
I guess I'll be sending my money t= o AOPA.
 
Monty

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