X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2281177 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:27:14 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.36; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id q.cdc.198fffac (52320) for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FWM-M32 (fwm-m32.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.234]) by ciaaol-d01.mail.aol.com (v119.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD0110-cc6046ce099b173; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:26:35 -0400 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: AeroElectric-List: Shakeup at EAA Sport Aviation Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:26:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wrjjrs@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8C9B3EBCC91922A_D04_21B6_FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 30077 Received: from 65.161.241.3 by FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.234) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:26:35 -0400 Message-Id: <8C9B3EBCC91922A-D04-1080@FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.193.234 X-Spam-Flag: NO ----------MB_8C9B3EBCC91922A_D04_21B6_FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ernest, ?I would like to give an input here. I found the?latest versions of Sport Aviation less likeable as well. I went?so far as to e-mail up the chain to find out what was going on. (As a chapter Officer I had some direct e-mail addresses) When I got a call from the the?EAA?I was told that there was an intentional change to make the magazine more "readable". I asked if that meant it was getting "dumbed down".?The amazing answer was YES, WE ARE INCLUDING ARTICLES THAT SHOULD ONLY REQUIRE AN 8TH GRADE EDUCATION TO UNDERSTAND! After I recovered from the shock,?I was told that we would not be printing any of the CAFE articles anymore, and any tech articles would need to be able to fit in 1 issue. What BULL BLEEP! When I mentioned that this was an internal magazine and not being sold to the public, they didn't even appologise and said that was the way it would be "for now". I understand that many of the members don't want full pages of math, but some do! The magazine should do some of both. While I haven't yet given up my membership, if a more "homebuilt friendly" organization started and made it I would be ready to jump ship, sadly, but I would. FWIW Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Christley To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 1:10 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: AeroElectric-List: Shakeup at EAA Sport Aviation Rogers, Bob J. wrote:? >? > (snip - you said) " Mr. Hipschman has had a PP-SEL for? > three years. He's been the editor for, what?, five or? > so. I accept that as proof of my statement, "The guy took? > a job editing what should be an intensely hardcore aviation? >? > publication, and he didn't have so much as a PP-SEL."? >? > In fact, Mr. Hipschman has been the editor of Sport Aviation for less > than three years; therefore, he was a licensed pilot when he took the > job. Go back and look at your Sport Aviation magazines and find where > he first took over.? >? Dang-it! You caught me in your precarious catch-22. If SA had content worth hanging onto, we wouldn't be having this exchange.? ? OK. I concede. I was fed a line created from whole cloth, and I bit...hook, line and sinker. I'm both gullible and a poor judge of character. Nothing has changed at EAA Headquarters, and it was foolish of me to think that it might. I apologize once more for having wasted your time.? ? Ernest (at least I get to keep my forty-bucks 8*)? ? --? Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/? Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9B3EBCC91922A_D04_21B6_FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Ernest,
 I would like to give an input here. I found the latest versions of Sport Aviation less likeable as well. I went so far as to e-mail up the chain to find out what was going on. (As a chapter Officer I had some direct e-mail addresses) When I got a call from the the EAA I was told that there was an intentional change to make the magazine more "readable". I asked if that meant it was getting "dumbed down". The amazing answer was YES, WE ARE INCLUDING ARTICLES THAT SHOULD ONLY REQUIRE AN 8TH GRADE EDUCATION TO UNDERSTAND! After I recovered from the shock, I was told that we would not be printing any of the CAFE articles anymore, and any tech articles would need to be able to fit in 1 issue. What BULL BLEEP! When I mentioned that this was an internal magazine and not being sold to the public, they didn't even appologise and said that was the way it would be "for now". I understand that many of the members don't want full pages of math, but some do! The magazine should do some of both. While I haven't yet given up my membership, if a more "homebuilt friendly" organization started and made it I would be ready to jump ship, sadly, but I would. FWIW
Bill Jepson


-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 1:10 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: AeroElectric-List: Shakeup at EAA Sport Aviation

Rogers, Bob J. wrote: 

> (snip - you said) " Mr. Hipschman has had a PP-SEL for 
> three years. He's been the editor for, what?, five or 
> so. I accept that as proof of my statement, "The guy took 
> a job editing what should be an intensely hardcore aviation 

> publication, and he didn't have so much as a PP-SEL." 

> In fact, Mr. Hipschman has been the editor of Sport Aviation for less > than three years; therefore, he was a licensed pilot when he took the > job. Go back and look at your Sport Aviation magazines and find where > he first took over. 

Dang-it! You caught me in your precarious catch-22. If SA had content worth hanging onto, we wouldn't be having this exchange. 
 
OK. I concede. I was fed a line created from whole cloth, and I bit...hook, line and sinker. I'm both gullible and a poor judge of character. Nothing has changed at EAA Headquarters, and it was foolish of me to think that it might. I apologize once more for having wasted your time. 
 
Ernest (at least I get to keep my forty-bucks 8*) 
 
-- 
Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ 
Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html 

Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
----------MB_8C9B3EBCC91922A_D04_21B6_FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com--