X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.235] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2246365 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:35:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.162.235; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so471604nzf for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:35:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=NEhZtPrInIAnL9VmqmotWugBkbo5n5ZSyQ7aFLeUAidbKxq4tb2eiCYvIFhTIV/Npc0jpP4dq/nlZHKu9BQB1M5kgea18Bg7ITxvUkBFVIeoPfC4XtEwEhb7WQ2CmcLNPTy0kmZnQLm1YHn8jdKFl4VmdzfKKWJQtblh5WPQB+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=S+Bfa7k+gK5MxK61bsj4eih3ig31WxAQWbPz/begWhkT62Hayz+tnvN5g8Rj5fE7YIFiZrqLi3vR3lPgygPNHIMU1kMN/sAAdBvNKj/VOIVRC4kwQ3sw5WVpc+6cROvXzbun55PXZz6a4gHwg3Ig7/LFwLob7lkSaW8Q9BgTgJo= Received: by 10.143.12.19 with SMTP id p19mr272052wfi.1186436108719; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.37.17 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0708061435g7811aa04m91283aca7f6f873a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:35:08 -0400 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Alternator drawing current at rest. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2866_8112251.1186436108469" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7b4d0c4c7ed7fa7 ------=_Part_2866_8112251.1186436108469 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Definitely not. Unplug the regulator plug and see if drain goes away. Might be a bad regulator or wiring error. Tracy On 8/5/07, David Leonard wrote: > > That current draw for the coils did seem high, so I checked further into > it. Turns out it is the alternator drawing the 3 amps, not the coils. It > gets warm to the touch. Is that normal? > > Dave Leonard > > > On 8/5/07, Tracy Crook wrote: > > > > Yep, you found the answer before I hit 'reply'. Firing an open coil > > can do damage but not necessarily every time. > > > > For a quick & dirty coil/igniter test, clean off the nose of the plug > > wire socket and test with a plug wire installed and see if you can get a > > spark an inch long from the other end to the engine block but *don't *get > > any pink body parts in the way. Sometimes a weak or damaged coil can fire > > a spark plug gap but still have a weak output. An inch long spark is more > > or less a passing grade. > > > > I never measured the resting current (no spark triggers) of a set of > > igniters but 3 amps sounds very high. > > > > Tracy (finding more errors in my -8 installation) > > > > > > On 8/5/07, David Leonard wrote: > > > > > > Well, after doing research, I find that I should never fire the coils > > > without being connected to a grounded spark plug... because the spark has > > > to go somewhere.... Doh! Hope I didn't hurt anything!!! > > > > > > > > > Dave Leonard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_Part_2866_8112251.1186436108469 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Definitely not.  Unplug the regulator plug and see if drain goes away.  Might be a bad regulator or wiring error.
 
Tracy

 
On 8/5/07, David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com> wrote:
That current draw for the coils did seem high, so I checked further into it.  Turns out it is the alternator drawing the 3 amps, not the coils.  It gets warm to the touch.  Is that normal?
 
Dave Leonard

 
On 8/5/07, Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com > wrote:
Yep, you found the answer before I hit 'reply'.   Firing an open coil can do damage but not necessarily every time. 
 
For a quick & dirty coil/igniter test, clean off the nose of the plug wire socket and test with a plug wire installed and see if you can get a spark an inch long from the other end to the engine block but don't get any pink body parts in the way.   Sometimes a weak or damaged coil can fire a spark plug gap but still have a weak output.  An inch long spark is more or less a passing grade.
 
I never measured the resting current (no spark triggers) of a set of igniters but 3 amps sounds very high.
 
Tracy (finding more errors in my -8 installation)

 
On 8/5/07, David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com > wrote:
Well, after doing research, I find that I should never fire the coils without being connected to a grounded spark plug...  because the spark has to go somewhere....  Doh!  Hope I didn't hurt anything!!!
 
 
Dave Leonard

 



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