X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.54] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2241081 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:09:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.54; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from [65.8.76.87] (adsl-8-76-87.mia.bellsouth.net[65.8.76.87]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20070804000839H0400l16b7e>; Sat, 4 Aug 2007 00:08:39 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.8.76.87] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <567FF116-9F75-4F28-8439-0B3C3BA3727E@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Tips on tuning Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:09:17 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Dave , =46rom what I have read, flattening the pitch will get you RPM and =20 power, but your forward speed will suffer. Same like revving your engine in 1st gear. Prop with diameter like =20 ours should be spun at around 3K RPM for best performance on takeoff. With my reduction drive 2.17 this prop RPM also brought =20 my engine at it's best power RPM at 6.5-7000 RPM I may be wrong, but it worked well for me. 3 blades used to bring down my engine RPM to 5200 and the prop to =20 around 2400. which was not that good? Again, I'm just an eyeball engineer and not a guru on the subject. Buly Still hang'n around :) On Aug 3, 2007, at 6:53 PM, David Staten wrote: > Lugging? Was this full fine? or at a coarser setting? > > I'm all for 3 or more blades because there is more surface area to =20 > impart thrust from. Since we have a prop disc limit of 66 inches on =20= > our airframe, adding blades is the way to go to improve thrust. =20 > There is a limit to the amount of HP a given blade can absorb and =20 > transmit. I wouldnt necessarily be opposed to trying a 6 blade =20 > variant either, provided we are making full power with our engine, =20 > or later with the turbo. > > > Dave > > Bulent Aliev wrote: > >> I used to have the same prop as Chris IVO Magnum 68" Diameter =20 >> inflight adjustable. I felt the 3 blade configuration used to lug =20 >> the engine down. Changed it to two blade (did not want to cut =20 >> the blades). My takeoff RPM was 6,500-7000. >> Buly >> >> On Aug 3, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 8/3/07, Al Gietzen wrote: >>> >>> Al, >>> I think Chris B. brought this up earlier today. I didn't =20 >>> respond, but you mentioned it, so then couldn't resist the urge =20 >>> to comment. To refresh everyone's memory, I have a 20B with a =20 >>> 76" 3-blade constant-speed M/T prop. So, I can dial in the prop =20= >>> speed desired and the prop controller does the rest. With it =20 >>> set to 2500 rpm, I'm seeing 7000 engine rpm on takeoff rolls. =20 >>> (What a sweet sound! It makes those Lycosaurus' sound like farm =20= >>> tractors.) It will turn about 6700 - 6800 during static =20 >>> runups. But this is a c/s prop, so your mileage may vary. >>> >>> Mark S. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have found that with my 66" dia =96 80" pitch prop my Velocity =20= >>> doesn't move until engine rpm is somewhere upward of 1500 rpm. >>> >>> >>> I get about 5500 static with my 20B, and about 5600 on takeoff. =20= >>> With adjustable pitch you will want to get some higher numbers. >>> >>> >>> Hope you find this helpful, >>> >>> >>> Al >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> --=20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/=20 >> flyrotary/List.html >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/=20 > flyrotary/List.html