X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2230897 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:46:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.61; envelope-from=CBarber@TexasAttorney.net Received: from [64.91.181.4] (helo=BLF) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IGxTD-0002to-CJ for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:45:35 -0400 From: "Christopher Barber" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 question Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:45:38 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C7D5AA.AA7D3F40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-ELNK-Trace: 04a7e290e6af3b12d3631fa4f7b525ef239a348a220c260935329115b77f20e0d34a020de9c82eb9ac30c6e5e32ee181350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.91.181.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C7D5AA.AA7D3F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THANKS, you are DA MAN. It will be done. Sorry I am being your CURRENT problem child. All the best, Chris Christopher Barber Attorney and Counselor at Law 5110 Bissonnet, No 418 Bellaire, Texas 77401 Serving the Needs of Senior Texans 281-464-LAWS (5297) 281-754-4168 Fax www.TexasAttorney.net -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Tracy Crook Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 6:34 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 question No time for temperature measurement instrumentation theory 101 today so I'll just give you the typical values for the coolant (and oil) temperature channels. Just plug these values in and see what happens. Scale factor - 2.151 Low end offset - 100 Sensor offset - 390 Low alarm limit - 0 (or whatever you want) High alarm limit - 210 for 2 & 3 gen, 225 for Renesis If still no joy, disconnect the temp sensor and check reading for change. If no change, disconnect wire for coolant temp at EM2 connector and check for change If still no change, EM2 is bad (not likely since similar channels on unit are working) Most likely problem is a short to ground on the sensor line. Hope this helps. Tracy (suddenly busy again) On 8/2/07, Christopher Barber wrote: Shocking....Chris is asking another question about the EM2. Hey, me asking questions means I am out there trying to make progress......not that I am defensive or anything Anyway, since my "buttons" issue the Coolant Temperature on the main screen has been showing "0". The oil temp is working ok. I figured that I must have inadvertently set it to 0 when I was having my button problem. I figured now that the buttons are working properly I could just go and calibrate it. Figured a good starting point would be to use the cold oil temp as a guide. However, when I try to calibrate it, it will not change from zero. I thought that maybe there was not % change from zero and I tried changing other calibration modes but nothing I have currently tried has changed it from zero. I admit to very little current understanding of the calibration feature at this time (even though I really like that it is included in the EM2....I like options even though they can be a pain sometimes). Any direction on how to get this off of zero would be helpful as I am hesitant to start the dang thing 'till I can know how hot the coolant is....I know I can get some idea from the oil, but still. David Staten will probable be much better at figuring this out, but we have not been able to meet up for actual progress in the last few days. TIA. All the best, Chris Christopher Barber Attorney and Counselor at Law 5110 Bissonnet, No 418 Bellaire, Texas 77401 Serving the Needs of Senior Texans 281-464-LAWS (5297) 281-754-4168 Fax www.TexasAttorney.net -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C7D5AA.AA7D3F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
THANKS, you are DA MAN.  It will be = done.
 
Sorry=20 I am being your CURRENT problem child. <g>
 
All=20 the best,
 
Chris
 

Christopher Barber
Attorney and Counselor at = Law
5110=20 Bissonnet, No 418
Bellaire, Texas 77401

Serving the Needs of = Senior=20 Texans

281-464-LAWS (5297)
281-754-4168 = Fax
www.TexasAttorney.net=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Tracy=20 Crook
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 6:34 AM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2=20 question

No time for temperature measurement instrumentation theory 101 = today so=20 I'll just give you the typical values for the coolant (and oil) = temperature=20 channels.  Just plug these values in and see what happens.
 
Scale factor -  2.151
Low end offset  - 100
Sensor offset -  390
Low alarm limit  - 0  (or whatever you want)
High alarm limit -   210 for 2 & 3 gen, 225 = for=20 Renesis
 
If still no joy, disconnect the temp sensor and check reading for = change.
If no change,  disconnect wire for coolant temp at EM2=20 connector and check for change
 
If still no change, EM2 is bad (not likely = since similar=20 channels on unit are working) 
 
Most likely problem is a short to ground on the sensor = line.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Tracy  (suddenly busy again)

 
On 8/2/07, Christopher=20 Barber <CBarber@texasattorney.net&g= t;=20 wrote:=20
Shocking....Chris=20 is asking another question about the EM2.  Hey, me=20 asking
questions means I am out there trying to make = progress......not=20 that I am
defensive or anything <g>

Anyway, since = my=20 "buttons" issue the Coolant Temperature on the main screen
has = been=20 showing "0".    The oil temp is working = ok.  I=20 figured that I must
have inadvertently set it to 0 when I was = having my=20 button problem.  I
figured now that the buttons are = working=20 properly I could just go and
calibrate it.  Figured a = good=20 starting point would be to use the cold oil
temp as a=20 guide.  However, when I try to calibrate it, it will not=20 change
from zero.  I thought that maybe there was not % = change=20 from zero and I
tried changing other calibration modes but = nothing I have=20 currently tried
has changed it from zero.  I admit to = very=20 little current understanding of
the calibration feature at this = time=20 (even though  I really like that it is
included in the = EM2....I=20 like options even though they can be a pain =
sometimes).

Any=20 direction on how to get this off of zero would be helpful as I=20 am
hesitant to start the dang thing 'till I can know how hot the=20 coolant
is....I know I can get some idea from the oil, but still. =

David Staten will probable be much better at figuring this = out, but=20 we have
not been able to meet up for actual progress in the last = few=20 days.  TIA.

All the = best,

Chris

Christopher=20 Barber
Attorney and Counselor at Law
5110 Bissonnet, No=20 418
Bellaire, Texas 77401

Serving the Needs of Senior=20 Texans

281-464-LAWS (5297)
281-754-4168 Fax
www.TexasAttorney.net=20



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