X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.62] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2230763 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:34:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.62; envelope-from=CBarber@TexasAttorney.net Received: from [64.91.181.4] (helo=BLF) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IGwLS-00014L-Kc for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:33:30 -0400 From: "Christopher Barber" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Static RPM Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 07:33:33 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C7D5A0.98CB1C40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-ELNK-Trace: 04a7e290e6af3b12d3631fa4f7b525ef239a348a220c260935329115b77f20e0d6fb398c59b00e66a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.91.181.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C7D5A0.98CB1C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My prop is an IVO in-flight adjustable 45 to 105 % pitch range, so I guess it is pitched full fine at 45%. We also did a mild street port during the rebuild. The prop is, IIRC 66" per Velocity, Inc. recommendation. (if not 66 it is 68"). All the best, Chris Christopher Barber Attorney and Counselor at Law 5110 Bissonnet, No 418 Bellaire, Texas 77401 Serving the Needs of Senior Texans 281-464-LAWS (5297) 281-754-4168 Fax www.TexasAttorney.net -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:47 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Static RPM Chris, that is great power "out of the box" with the 2.17 redrive. My early engine and induction system was humping to produce 5000 rpm static with a 68x72 prop (2.17:1 gearbox). What pitch do you have on the prop? That will of course make a big difference. But, regardless, that is a great start. Congratulations Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Static RPM Ok, I know I have read about this somewhere, but not sure where or what I read means, but I finally ran my engine up to full power and was wondering what kind of numbers I should be seeing. Even though I had some intermentant wire issue (SUPRISE) in that as I got over about 4500 rpm the rpm would flash in the hundreds and then go to zero. When I throttled back to below 4500 ish, the reading came back. This happened a few times. However, later when I did it, the readings were better and I was able to run the rpm up to about 5500 rpm at full power on the Mistral Intake (so about 2534 rpm at the prop). It seem to reach full rpm at about 3/4 (to 4/5) of full throttle and then mostly stablized. Sounded smooth even though I am still running rich. It seems to run much better with the mixture at about 9 oclock and bogs as I bring it to the noon position. In auto tune it seems to be trying to lean but kinda slow and if I try to keep it at the 12 oclock position it seems too rich, so I think I will need to do some manual leaning and then go back to the autotune. I am idleing pretty smoothly at about 1000 rpm. Is this RPM range acceptable? Is this good; bad? What should I expect? I was nervous to run it up like this, but I just kept telling myself that I am not gonna be throwing a rod or blowing a jug . If you remember I do not have coolant temp reading right now, so I closely monitored the oil temp and kept the run short, but I was curious as to what I could run it up to. Thanks again. All the best, Chris ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C7D5A0.98CB1C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My=20 prop is an IVO in-flight adjustable 45 to 105 % pitch range, so I guess = it is=20 pitched full fine at 45%.  We also did a mild street port during = the=20 rebuild.  The prop is, IIRC 66" per Velocity, Inc. = recommendation. (if=20 not 66 it is 68").
 
All=20 the best,
 
Chris
 

Christopher Barber
Attorney and Counselor at = Law
5110=20 Bissonnet, No 418
Bellaire, Texas 77401

Serving the Needs of = Senior=20 Texans

281-464-LAWS (5297)
281-754-4168 = Fax
www.TexasAttorney.net=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:47 AM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Static=20 RPM

Chris, that is great power "out of the box" =  with=20 the 2.17 redrive.  My early engine and induction system was = humping to=20 produce 5000 rpm static with a 68x72 prop (2.17:1 gearbox).  What = pitch=20 do you have on the prop?  That will of course make a big=20 difference.  But, regardless, that is a great start.
 
Congratulations
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Christopher Barber =
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Thursday, August 02, = 2007 10:52=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Static = RPM

Ok, I know I have read about this = somewhere,=20 but not sure where or what I read means, but I finally ran my engine = up to=20 full power and was wondering what kind of numbers I should be=20 seeing.
 
Even though I had some intermentant = wire issue=20 (SUPRISE) in that as I got over about 4500 rpm the rpm = would flash in=20 the hundreds and then go to zero.  When I throttled back = to below=20 4500 ish, the reading came back.  This happened a few=20 times.
 
However, later when I did = it, the readings=20 were better and I was able to run the rpm up to about 5500 rpm = at full=20 power on the Mistral Intake (so about 2534 rpm at the prop).  = It seem=20 to reach full rpm at about 3/4 (to 4/5) of full throttle and then = mostly=20 stablized.  Sounded smooth even though I am still running = rich. =20 It seems to run much better with the mixture at about 9 oclock and = bogs as I=20 bring it to the noon position.  In auto tune it seems to = be=20 trying to lean but kinda slow and if I try to keep it at the 12 = oclock=20 position it seems too rich, so I think I will need to do some = manual=20 leaning and then go back to the autotune.  I am idleing pretty = smoothly=20 at about 1000 rpm.
 
Is this RPM range acceptable?  = Is this=20 good; bad? What should I expect? I was nervous to run it = up like=20 this, but I just kept telling myself that I am not gonna be throwing = a rod=20 or blowing a jug <g>.  If you remember I do not have = coolant temp=20 reading right now, so I closely monitored the oil temp and kept the = run=20 short, but I was curious as to what I could run it up to.  = Thanks=20 again.
 
All the best,
 
Chris
 
 
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