Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #38911
From: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 & builder issues
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:14:27 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
That's what I used in my simple set-up, but it does require three wires to the sensor: Ground (could be the shield of the cable), +5 Volts and Sensor output.

I had a junction box on the engine side of the firewall which also had the EGT chips (amplified the EGT voltages to 0 to 10 Volts -- I forget the part number) and then a multi wire cable from there to my EM, with only one wire for group, +5, +10 volts and one for each signal. When removing the homemade sensors from the oil pan or engine block I would disconnect the leads from the junction box (screw terminals), roll up the wire and then screw out the sensor housing.

Finn

Wendell Voto wrote:
Tracy,
Maybe you shouldn't had said 50th but we won't tell.
Could the EM2 use LM34 temp sensors?  They give 10mv/deg. F and have very good accuracy (spec is 1 degree but I get less than .1 degree repeatability one sensor to another)and track well, very linear.  They are what I am using, just JB welded into a hollowed out old sensor and plan on using for oil and water temps.
Wendell

    *Fine points on the EM2:*
                   The default sensors on the EM2 are very low cost automotive types
    but they are not inherently super accurate.  Usually there in no
    big down-side for the water or oil temp to be off a few degrees so
    most builders need not go any further.  If the water temp turns
    out to be actually 178 instead of  180, no big deal.  Super
    accuracy can be had with these sensors if you go to the trouble of
    calibrating the instrument but then you must get into the nitty
    gritty of the calibration procedures and the troubles can begin.
         But here is where it does matter.  If you are calculating thermal
    loads and heat dissipation based on differential temps (let's say
    water temps in and out of the radiator for instance)  a few
    degrees of error can make your results meaningless.  In this
    example, it is not uncommon for the Delta T to be in the range of
    10 degrees at some power settings.  If the error in temperature is
    a couple of degrees, the error is huge, especially if the errors
    are in opposite directions.
         Bottom line is, if you need very accurate readings, learn to
    calibrate the EM2 if that is what you are using.  To do this, you
    need a good reference.  The easiest way is to use a non-contact
    (infra-red) thermometer.  Harbor Freight and others are now
    selling inexpensive ones for about $10.00.  No reason for any
    airplane builder not to have one.   Be sure to paint the test
    points on the part to be measured with a spot of flat black paint
    to eliminate emissivity errors.          Tracy  (should I have said 50th?  )
     
         
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