Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #38402
From: Richard Sohn <unicorn@gdsys.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Single Rotor Run
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:36:56 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:59 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Single Rotor Run

What torque pulses? Today was the first run with the complete engine in flight configuration, meaning engine - psru - prop. No vibration out of the ordinary. It, off curse, is shaking at 1300 RPM idle, just as my Soob does. Once it goes over 1700 running like an electric motor, almost.  
 
Sounds great Richard.  What prop are you running?  
 
A couple thoughts come to mind about why you might not have the same torque reversal problems I have.  One is the damper in the Hirth gear box.  It might just be that it's exactly right for the job.  
 
The other possibility I've mentioned before is that maybe you're benefiting from one of the PP shortcomings.  As I understand it, PP engines tend to have less power down really low in RPM's.  Perhaps this lack of torque is what's keeping you from having the torque reversal problems.  I don't see a down side to this, and it would be THE reason to go with PP for me (if indeed it has anything to do with it).   
 
Cheers,
Rusty
 
I am using a 75" three blade Powerfin set at the tip to 13deg. 
 
 
The key to eliminate the influence of the power pulses is to have all natural frequencies in the power train well below the rpm operated. This meaning high rotational inertia and soft couplers.
We can't do much about the inertia except bigger flywheel, and that would be weight. So we can only Play with the coupler. Early on, I determined that the coupler used on the two rotor is way too stiff for single rotor. Even with the  softest rubber, you can not get the freedom needed for low enough natural freuency and sufficient damping factor. The only way to achieve that is with a much smaller radius for the location of the coupling elements.
I don't know what your coupler looks like, but I would suspect that it is very close to what is used on the two rotors.
If every thing else fails, the Hirth comes with the option for a clutch. And the price is right.
 
Richard
 
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