X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2168103 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:41:36 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.67; envelope-from=CBarber@TexasAttorney.net Received: from [24.238.208.71] (helo=userte4ok6qti7) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1I84ip-0001Pe-Bk for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:40:59 -0400 Message-ID: <00d401c7c293$705506b0$0401a8c0@userte4ok6qti7> From: "Christopher Barber" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:41:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C7C269.86F3D5B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-ELNK-Trace: 04a7e290e6af3b12d3631fa4f7b525ef239a348a220c260908192203ffc6e2fab7b5e4e53c5c76b6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.238.208.71 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C7C269.86F3D5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the input. I am still a while away, but my project does look = moslty like an airplane and the engine did start today I hope the BBQ you were gonna take him to is in Dripping = Springs......well, I guess there are OTHER BBQ places in Texas...but I = really like the one in Dripping Springs. I am supposed to be in Guene = starting about August 6 for a weeks vacation and a Sigma Chi Fraternity = reunion in San Marcos. I know Lockhart is not all that close to San = Marcos et al, but it is much closer than where I am in Houston. Thanks = again. All the best, Chris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:08 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question Chris,=20 The only thing he asked me to do was pay for his gas to fly down. He = indicated that $10 would suffice, but we both know that that wouldn't = hardly get him to the runup area. Due to all the heavy rains and = overcast skies, we had trouble getting things coordinated. He flies for = Delta out of Atlanta from Thursday through Sunday. He normally flies = back from Atlanta on Sunday or Monday. Instead, he flew into Austin, = rented a car and drove down to Lockhart, then drove north to Dallas = afterwards. I gave him $150 to cover the car rental and gas. I had = planned on taking him to have BBQ, but he was in a hurry to head home. = He said that he does it as a service to the EAA community. It sure = beats the local DAR's prices. =20 Mark =20 =20 On 7/9/07, Christopher Barber wrote:=20 Thanks for the update, success and the report on Ron Gowen. He is = who I plan to call first as I have not only met him, he let me fly from = the back seat of one of his Vari-EZ's when I was up in Denton visiting = Alex a few years ago. I think he either has or had a rotory powered EZ = (even though the one I flew in had a Lyc). The day I was there, he had = just recieved a new Marconni PSRU. He was very pleased with it.=20 If you don't mind, would you please share the details of his cost = and expectations as to come for a visit? Congrats on turning your piles of fiberglass, metal and foam into a = real honest to goodness flying machine. All the best, Chris Barber Houston ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question =20 Kelly,=20 Thanks for the words of encouragement. The rains have stopped = here in central Texas, the sun is once again shining, and the doves = returned to the ark with twigs in their mouths. The DAR came out to the = airport today in his kayak and did the final inspection on my Lancair = ES/20B project. And he actually signed it off!!! So, it is officially = an "airplane" and no longer a "project". How about that? Its been a = long haul, but now the fun begins... as soon as I get some recurrency = training to bring me up to speed. He said I did a good job with much = attention to detail, then he took my money and left. ;-) I'll should = get the paperwork in the mail in a few days. Soon I'll be starting the = 40-hour testing phase. I had asked for a 200 mile radius, but that = would have put me over the Houston area, so he cut it down to 100 miles. = He said that the FAA frowns on more than that, especially with auto = conversions. So, I'lll have to make do with a 100 mile radius. =20 If anyone wants/needs a DAR with rotary experience, and you're in = the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, I would highly recommend this inspector. His = name is Ron Gowan. He has 500 hrs PIC flying a rotary. He also has = composites experience. I felt that he would be a good choice even if he = didn't have extensive composites experience. =20 He said the two biggest areas to pay very close attention is the = psru and the cooling system. He said that the rotary engine is rock = solid. (That really impressed the old timers at the airport.) So, all you guys working away month after month, keep the faith, = there is a glorious day coming. ;-) Mark S. =20 On 7/7/07, Kelly Troyer wrote:=20 Mark, Pulling for you !! You will certainly have one going and beautiful aircraft........Will absolutely be a plus for the = Rotary movement in general and a worthy addition to the somewhat rare 20B engine group....... -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 =20 -------------- Original message from "Mark Steitle" < = msteitle@gmail.com>: --------------=20 > Mark Steitle wrote: > >> Here's a non-rotary question for the group. The DAR will = be=20 >> coming out Monday morning to inspect my project. Hopefully = it=20 >> will qualify as an airplane once he's done. He mentioned = to me to >> be sure to have my airframe logbook so that he can make his = >> required log entry. (Here's the problem.) I don't have a = logbook=20 >> yet. But according to an A&P on the Lancair list, the = logbook can >> be done in 3-ring binder format, or even on computer. I = would=20 >> like to make one up in the 3-ring binder format, but don't = have=20 >> any idea of what's required. Anyone on the list been = through thi s >> and have a page format they are willing to share? Mark S.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C7C269.86F3D5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the input.  I am still = a while=20 away, but my project does look moslty like an airplane and the engine = did start=20 today <g>
 
I hope the BBQ you were gonna take him = to is in=20 Dripping Springs......well, I guess there are OTHER BBQ places in = Texas...but I=20 really like the one in Dripping Springs.  I am supposed to be in = Guene=20 starting about August 6 for a weeks vacation and a Sigma Chi Fraternity = reunion=20 in San Marcos.  I know Lockhart is not all that close to San Marcos = et al,=20 but it is much closer than where I am in Houston.  Thanks=20 again.
 
All the best,
 
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark = Steitle=20
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 = 8:08 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Logbook=20 Question

Chris,
The only thing he asked me to do was pay for his gas to fly = down. =20 He indicated that $10 would suffice, but we both know that that = wouldn't=20 hardly get him to the runup area.  Due to all the heavy rains and = overcast skies, we had trouble getting things coordinated.  He = flies for=20 Delta out of Atlanta from Thursday through Sunday.  He = normally=20 flies back from Atlanta on Sunday or Monday.  Instead, he flew = into=20 Austin, rented a car and drove down to Lockhart, then drove north = to=20 Dallas afterwards.  I gave him $150 to cover the car rental and=20 gas.  I had planned on taking him to have BBQ, but he = was in a=20 hurry to head home.  He said that he does it as a service to the = EAA=20 community.  It sure beats the local DAR's = prices.  
 
Mark   

 
On 7/9/07, Christopher=20 Barber <CBarber@texasattorney.net&g= t;=20 wrote:=20
Thanks for the update, success and = the report=20 on Ron Gowen.  He is who I plan to call first as I have not = only met=20 him, he let me fly from the back seat of one of his Vari-EZ's when I = was up=20 in Denton visiting Alex a few years ago.  I think he either has = or had=20 a rotory powered EZ (even though the one I flew in had a Lyc).  = The day=20 I was there, he had just recieved a new Marconni PSRU.  He was = very=20 pleased with it.
 
If you don't mind, would you please = share the=20 details of his cost and expectations as to come for a = visit?
 
Congrats on turning your piles of = fiberglass,=20 metal and foam into a real honest to goodness flying = machine.
 
All the best,
 
Chris Barber
Houston
----- Original Message ----- =
From: = Mark = Steitle
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 = 3:59=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Logbook=20 Question

 
Kelly,
 
Thanks for the words of encouragement.  The = rains=20 have stopped here in central Texas, the sun is once = again shining, and the doves returned to the ark with twigs = in their=20 mouths.  The DAR came out to the airport today in his kayak = and did=20 the final inspection on my Lancair ES/20B project.  = And he=20 actually signed it off!!!  So, it is officially an "airplane" = and no=20 longer a "project".  How about that?  Its been = a long haul,=20 but now the fun begins... as soon as I get some recurrency = training to=20 bring me up to speed.  He said I did a good = job with much=20 attention to detail, then he took my money and left.  = ;-) =20 I'll should get the paperwork in the mail in a few=20 days.  Soon I'll be starting the 40-hour testing = phase.  I=20 had asked for a 200 mile radius, but that would have put me over = the=20 Houston area, so he cut it down to 100 miles.  He said that = the FAA=20 frowns on more than that, especially with auto conversions.  = So,=20 I'lll have to make do with a 100 mile radius. 
 
If anyone wants/needs a DAR with rotary experience, and = you're in the=20 Dallas/Ft. Worth area, I would highly recommend this = inspector.  His=20 name is Ron Gowan.  He has 500 hrs PIC flying a rotary.  = He also=20 has composites experience.  I felt that he would be a = good=20 choice even if he didn't have extensive composites = experience. =20
He said the two biggest areas to pay very close attention is = the psru=20 and the cooling system.  He said that the rotary engine is = rock=20 solid. (That really impressed the old timers at the = airport.)
 
So, all you guys working away month after month, keep the = faith,=20 there is a glorious day coming. ;-)
 
Mark S.

 
On 7/7/07, Kelly=20 Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:=20
Mark,
   Pulling for you  !!  You will = certainly=20 have one going and
beautiful aircraft........Will absolutely be a plus = for the=20 Rotary
movement in general and a worthy addition to the = somewhat
rare 20B engine group.......
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20



 

--------------=20 Original message from "Mark Steitle" <=20 msteitle@gmail.com>: --------------

> = Mark=20 Steitle wrote:
>
>> Here's a non-rotary = question for=20 the group.  The DAR will be
>> coming out = Monday=20 morning to inspect my project.  Hopefully it =
>>=20 will qualify as an airplane once he's done.  He = mentioned to=20 me to
>> be sure to have my airframe logbook so that = he can=20 make his
>> required log entry.  (Here's = the=20 problem.)  I don't have a logbook
>>=20 yet.  But according to an A&P on the Lancair = list, the=20 logbook can
>> be done in 3-ring binder format, or = even on=20 computer.  I would
>> like to make one up = in the=20 3-ring binder format, but don't have
>> any idea of = what's=20 required.  Anyone on the list been through thi = s
>>=20 and have a page format they are willing to = share?  Mark S.=20 =

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