X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2167903 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:35:48 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-103-061.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.103.61]) by ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l69NYvFv013529 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000901c7c281$cb41b800$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Congratulations, Mark was[FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:35:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C7C260.43E15BC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C7C260.43E15BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations, Mark! Amazing how all of those hundreds of projects = turn into an airplane - almost like magic - almost {:>) Yes, Ron Gowan was one of the early pioneers with his rotary powered = Long EZ. I was contacted by another one of the early pioneers, Terry = Adams. He put a rotary in his T-18, unfortunately he was using a Mazda = auto CPU (before the days of Tracy Crook) and had the infamous over temp = problems and on his second flight the CPU apparently shut the engine = down at 800 ft on take off. Plane flipped on landing in a plowed field. = He was OK but decided to put it all aside for a while (about 15+ years = ago). He has rebuilt his T-18 and is talking about getting back into = the rotary game. Ron mentioned that he was thinking about it at one = point as well. =20 Anyhow, now you will get the change to be know as one of the old timers = in rotary aviation with one of the first 3 rotor's in a Lancair to get = going. Let us know when you plan the first flight Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question Kelly,=20 Thanks for the words of encouragement. The rains have stopped here in = central Texas, the sun is once again shining, and the doves returned to = the ark with twigs in their mouths. The DAR came out to the airport = today in his kayak and did the final inspection on my Lancair ES/20B = project. And he actually signed it off!!! So, it is officially an = "airplane" and no longer a "project". How about that? Its been a long = haul, but now the fun begins... as soon as I get some recurrency = training to bring me up to speed. He said I did a good job with much = attention to detail, then he took my money and left. ;-) I'll should = get the paperwork in the mail in a few days. Soon I'll be starting the = 40-hour testing phase. I had asked for a 200 mile radius, but that = would have put me over the Houston area, so he cut it down to 100 miles. = He said that the FAA frowns on more than that, especially with auto = conversions. So, I'lll have to make do with a 100 mile radius. =20 If anyone wants/needs a DAR with rotary experience, and you're in the = Dallas/Ft. Worth area, I would highly recommend this inspector. His = name is Ron Gowan. He has 500 hrs PIC flying a rotary. He also has = composites experience. I felt that he would be a good choice even if he = didn't have extensive composites experience. =20 He said the two biggest areas to pay very close attention is the psru = and the cooling system. He said that the rotary engine is rock solid. = (That really impressed the old timers at the airport.) So, all you guys working away month after month, keep the faith, there = is a glorious day coming. ;-) Mark S. =20 On 7/7/07, Kelly Troyer wrote:=20 Mark, Pulling for you !! You will certainly have one going and beautiful aircraft........Will absolutely be a plus for the Rotary movement in general and a worthy addition to the somewhat rare 20B engine group....... -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 =20 -------------- Original message from "Mark Steitle" < = msteitle@gmail.com>: --------------=20 > Mark Steitle wrote: > >> Here's a non-rotary question for the group. The DAR will be=20 >> coming out Monday morning to inspect my project. Hopefully it=20 >> will qualify as an airplane once he's done. He mentioned to me = to >> be sure to have my airframe logbook so that he can make his=20 >> required log entry. (Here's the problem.) I don't have a = logbook=20 >> yet. But according to an A&P on the Lancair list, the logbook = can >> be done in 3-ring binder format, or even on computer. I would=20 >> like to make one up in the 3-ring binder format, but don't have = >> any idea of what's required. Anyone on the list been through = thi s >> and have a page format they are willing to share? Mark S.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C7C260.43E15BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Congratulations, Mark!  Amazing how = all of=20 those hundreds of projects turn into an airplane - almost like = magic  -=20 almost {:>)
 
Yes, Ron Gowan was one of the early pioneers = with his=20 rotary powered Long EZ.  I was contacted by another one of the = early=20 pioneers, Terry Adams.  He put a rotary in his T-18, unfortunately = he was=20 using a Mazda auto CPU (before the days of Tracy Crook) and had the = infamous=20 over temp problems and on his second flight the CPU apparently shut the = engine=20 down at 800 ft on take off.  Plane flipped on landing in a plowed=20 field.  He was OK but decided to put it all aside for a while = (about 15+=20 years ago).  He has rebuilt his T-18 and is talking about getting = back into=20 the rotary game.  Ron mentioned that he was thinking about it at = one point=20 as well. 
 
Anyhow, now you will get the change to be know = as one of=20 the old timers in rotary aviation with one of the first 3 rotor's in a = Lancair=20 to get going.
 
Let us know when you plan the first = flight
 
Ed
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark = Steitle=20
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 = 4:59 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Logbook=20 Question

Kelly,
 
Thanks for the words of encouragement.  The rains=20 have stopped here in central Texas, the sun is once=20 again shining, and the doves returned to the ark with twigs in = their=20 mouths.  The DAR came out to the airport today in his kayak and = did the=20 final inspection on my Lancair ES/20B project.  And he = actually=20 signed it off!!!  So, it is officially an "airplane" and no = longer a=20 "project".  How about that?  Its been a long haul, but = now the=20 fun begins... as soon as I get some recurrency training to bring me up = to=20 speed.  He said I did a good job with much attention to = detail,=20 then he took my money and left.  ;-)  I'll should = get the=20 paperwork in the mail in a few days.  Soon I'll be = starting the=20 40-hour testing phase.  I had asked for a 200 mile radius, but = that would=20 have put me over the Houston area, so he cut it down to 100 = miles.  He=20 said that the FAA frowns on more than that, especially with auto=20 conversions.  So, I'lll have to make do with a 100 mile=20 radius. 
 
If anyone wants/needs a DAR with rotary experience, and you're in = the=20 Dallas/Ft. Worth area, I would highly recommend this inspector.  = His name=20 is Ron Gowan.  He has 500 hrs PIC flying a rotary.  He also = has=20 composites experience.  I felt that he would be a good = choice even=20 if he didn't have extensive composites experience. 
He said the two biggest areas to pay very close attention is the = psru and=20 the cooling system.  He said that the rotary engine is rock = solid. (That=20 really impressed the old timers at the airport.)
 
So, all you guys working away month after month, keep the faith, = there is=20 a glorious day coming. ;-)
 
Mark S.

 
On 7/7/07, Kelly=20 Troyer <keltro@att.net>=20 wrote:=20
Mark,
   Pulling for you  !!  You will = certainly=20 have one going and
beautiful aircraft........Will absolutely be a plus for = the=20 Rotary
movement in general and a worthy addition to the somewhat
rare 20B engine group.......
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20



 

--------------=20 Original message from "Mark Steitle" <=20 msteitle@gmail.com>: --------------

> Mark=20 Steitle wrote:
>
>> Here's a non-rotary question = for the=20 group.  The DAR will be
>> coming out Monday = morning=20 to inspect my project.  Hopefully it
>> will = qualify=20 as an airplane once he's done.  He mentioned to me=20 to
>> be sure to have my airframe logbook so that he can = make his=20
>> required log entry.  (Here's the=20 problem.)  I don't have a logbook
>>=20 yet.  But according to an A&P on the Lancair list, = the=20 logbook can
>> be done in 3-ring binder format, or even = on=20 computer.  I would
>> like to make one up in = the=20 3-ring binder format, but don't have
>> any idea of = what's=20 required.  Anyone on the list been through thi = s
>> and=20 have a page format they are willing to share?  Mark S.=20 =

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