X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2167221 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:18:45 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.9; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id q.c0d.1bdd600c (52856) for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WEBMAIL-MC19 (webmail-mc19.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.96]) by cia-m04.mx.aol.com (v118.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAM048-ce7846926dc01f9; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:17:52 -0400 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Rotary Engine Electrical Power Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:17:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wrjjrs@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 28518 Received: from 65.161.241.3 by WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.96) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:17:52 -0400 Message-Id: <8C990643757BB69-47C-12F5@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.170.96 X-Spam-Flag: NO Fred, and Group, FYI Mistral has decided to do the starter generator for weight savings=20 too. Francois mentioned it in a recent post. Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Fred Osborn To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 9:36 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Rotary Engine Electrical Power Ernest Christley wrote 7/6/07, Message #38256, Re: Ford EDIS:=A0 =A0 4.7lbs isn't a great weight saver compared to some of the lightweight=20 alternators out there, but I don't think they're usually weighed with=20 the mounting brackets and pulleys from the engine side of the belt. We=20 can get more weight savings if we let the flywheel that we already have=20 double as a rotor.=A0 =A0 I agree, the thought of the rear counter weight whirling around just=20 stirring air while doing it's balancing function really bugs me. A=20 non-magnetic replacement carrying permanent magnets and surrounded by a=20 set of coils would just cost the added weight of the coils. How much=20 power and reliability do you want? Those coils together with a set of=20 power switching electronics and a position sensor could become a=20 starter/generator.=A0 =A0 I'm not all that excited by the use of permanent magnets for various=20 reasons. They do have the big advantage of simplicity. Eventually, the=20 goal should be the use of an Integrated Starter/Generators (IGS) such=20 as those being introduced in automotive applications. The power=20 switching devices required are now state-of-the-art and in volume=20 production for a wide variety of switched reluctance motor=20 applications.=A0 =A0 I have given serious consideration to working this area myself but the=20 recent installation of 3 more stents added to my previous 3 have caused=20 some equally serious consideration to "slowing down".=A0 =A0 Fred O.=A0 =A0 =A0 --=A0 Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=A0 Archive and UnSub:=20 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=A0 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free=20 from AOL at AOL.com. =3D0