X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao101.cox.net ([68.230.241.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2155862 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:19:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.45; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20070703161834.WHCV17683.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:18:34 -0400 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.132.90]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id K4Ja1X0021xAn3c0000000; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:18:34 -0400 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: Phase 1 completion Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:19:35 -0800 Message-ID: <000501c7bd96$5441a200$6400a8c0@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: Phase 1 completion Al Gietzen wrote: > > The other is that there is something strange about the timing. At low > power things appear fine; switching off leading ignition has more > effect than switching off trailing, as expected. At operating power > levels, however; switching off leading has almost no noticeable > effect; whereas switching off trailing drops the rpm by 400+ rpm - > which suggests that the timing is very late. Yet advancing the timing > via mode 8 does not make any improvement. What is wrong with this > picture? It is possible that the added filters caused a delay in the > timing, although analysis suggests the effect would be small. Why > doesn't advancing the timing improve the power? Is there a timing > change to one set of coils associated with disabling the other? We are > removing the filtering capacitors from the ignition circuits as a test > to see what the effect is. > Just a shot in the dark, but is it possible that you are too far advanced and are reaching peak pressure to soon? Just a slight alignment or measurement error could mess you up, and the rotary's resistance to detonation would mask the problem. A test would be to retard the ignition 1 degree, then disable the leading and trailing to compare the numbers to what you have now. -------------------- Unless I am mistaken, spark too far advanced would diminish the effect of the trailing plug and increase the effect of the leading plug. What I am seeing is the opposite. Al