X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2155599 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:52:54 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.102.122.149; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2007 09:52:06 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKrwiUZAZnme/2dsb2JhbAA X-IronPort-AV: i="4.16,492,1175486400"; d="scan'208"; a="125134228:sNHT35961744" Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l63Dq5HR013251 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:52:05 -0400 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l63Dq46i005317 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:52:05 GMT Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:51:58 -0400 Received: from [64.102.38.162] ([64.102.38.162]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:51:58 -0400 Message-ID: <468A547F.2090704@nc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:51:59 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070403) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] FW: Phase 1 completion References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2007 13:51:58.0817 (UTC) FILETIME=[53373D10:01C7BD79] Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=echristley@nc.rr.com; dkim=neutral Al Gietzen wrote: > > The other is that there is something strange about the timing. At low > power things appear fine; switching off leading ignition has more > effect than switching off trailing, as expected. At operating power > levels, however; switching off leading has almost no noticeable > effect; whereas switching off trailing drops the rpm by 400+ rpm – > which suggests that the timing is very late. Yet advancing the timing > via mode 8 does not make any improvement. What is wrong with this > picture? It is possible that the added filters caused a delay in the > timing, although analysis suggests the effect would be small. Why > doesn’t advancing the timing improve the power? Is there a timing > change to one set of coils associated with disabling the other? We are > removing the filtering capacitors from the ignition circuits as a test > to see what the effect is. > Just a shot in the dark, but is it possible that you are too far advanced and are reaching peak pressure to soon? Just a slight alignment or measurement error could mess you up, and the rotary's resistance to detonation would mask the problem. A test would be to retard the ignition 1 degree, then disable the leading and trailing to compare the numbers to what you have now.