X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-05.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.104] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2155539 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:27:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.104; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-103-061.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.103.61]) by ms-smtp-05.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l63DR68m019402 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c7bd75$db5ae920$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine mount Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:27:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7BD54.53F842F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7BD54.53F842F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, as actor Clint Eastwood, said " A man's got to know his = limitations" , two things I don't do is weld and paint. I took my = Lycoming RV motor mount and used it as the starting point since I have a = nose gear and didn't want to try to design all the geometry for it. Its = hard to progress with the engine compartment without a motor mount. =20 I used a 2-D CAD program to try and help me avoid motormount engine = components interference and still ran into areas where even 1/4" = distance would have made life easier. But, of course, it was 1/4" in = the wrong direction. I do not fly much (if at all) during the summer months - that bubble = canopy really heats up quickly in the summer sun - so I can understand = (having lived in Texas) why you want A/C. Well, now you can hang the motor and really get started on the FWF = configuration or is that FWA in the case of canards? Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wendell Voto=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine mount Thanks Ed, I had it professionally welded. My late brother-in-law was to help me = build it last year but cancer took him before we could get all the ducks = in a row. I could not get the mount to come together, how to cut the = pieces then who could weld it. No one near here would help and if I = could not get the mount finished, the project would be abandon due a = great deal to discouragement. I found an aviation welder in the Dallas = area that would work with me (I due contract work in that area so am = down there from Oklahoma quite often) and we got it welded in three = sessions. Took the square part directly under engine first, glued = together with wood strips, then the support structure and last the two = outer top braces. Not painted yet and since firewall is not complete, = the reason for the grayscale picture. If I can't get the air = conditioner to clear the outer support ( it did before welding but = something shifted), I might cut the top supports and narrow the rear = piece to fit a standard Cozy lower cowl. I can get the use of a cowl = from a friend in Texas to use as a mold. He is almost insistent that I = go the mold method instead of custom cowl the way John Slade did. So am = grinding away on the bracket and want desperately to have a/c here in = hot southwest. Wendell Nice looking welding job, Wendell. Needless to say, an important step along the way. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wendell Voto=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Engine mount Here is my engine mount. Finally got it welded and am temporarily = setting it up to check for fit and leaks. Wendell -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7BD54.53F842F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, as actor Clint Eastwood, said " A man's got = to know=20 his limitations" , two things I don't do is weld and paint.   = I took=20 my Lycoming RV motor mount and used it as the starting point since I = have a nose=20 gear and didn't want to try to design all the geometry for it.  Its = hard to=20 progress with the engine compartment without a motor mount.  =
 
I used a 2-D CAD program to try and help me = avoid=20 motormount engine components interference and still ran into areas where = even=20 1/4" distance would have made life easier.  But, of course, it was = 1/4" in=20 the wrong direction.
 
 I do not fly much (if at all) during the = summer=20 months - that bubble canopy really heats up quickly in the summer sun - = so I can=20 understand (having lived in Texas) why you want A/C.
 
Well, now you can hang the motor and really get = started on=20 the FWF configuration or is that FWA in the case of = canards?
 
Ed
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From:=20 Wendell = Voto=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 = 9:11=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine = mount

Thanks Ed,
I had it professionally welded.  My late brother-in-law was = to help=20 me build it last year but cancer took him before we could get all the = ducks in=20 a row.  I could not get the mount to come together, how to cut = the pieces=20 then who could weld it.  No one near here would help and if I = could not=20 get the mount finished, the project would be abandon due a great deal = to=20 discouragement. I found an aviation welder in the Dallas area = that would=20 work with me (I due contract work in that area so am down there from = Oklahoma=20 quite often) and we got it welded in three sessions.  Took the = square=20 part directly under engine first, glued together with wood strips, = then the=20 support structure and last the two outer top braces. Not painted yet = and since=20 firewall is not complete, the reason for the grayscale picture.  = If I=20 can't get the air conditioner to clear the outer support ( it did = before=20 welding but something shifted), I might cut the top supports and = narrow the=20 rear piece to fit a standard Cozy lower cowl.  I can get the use = of a=20 cowl from a friend in Texas to use as a mold.  He is almost = insistent=20 that I go the mold method instead of custom cowl the way John Slade = did. =20 So am grinding away on the bracket and want desperately to have a/c = here in=20 hot southwest.
Wendell

 Nice looking welding job, = Wendell.
 
Needless to say, an important step along the = way.
 
Ed
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Wendell=20 Voto
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 = 10:06=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Engine = mount

Here is my engine mount. Finally got it welded and am = temporarily=20 setting it up to check for fit and leaks.
Wendell

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