Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #38169
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Brazing was [FlyRotary] Re: PP Construction..
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:05:54 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I agree, George, When you've gotta have the power, then you've gotta have the power.
 
  I am certainly not Poo-Pooing PP at all.  I have just (belatedly) come to realize (in the wisdom of my old age), that just because something is available that can do x,y, and z, I really don't need it if all I plan to do is x {:>).
 
I am certainly eager to see some of you guys work this out - who knows I may not be able to resist {:>)
 
Ed
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:39 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brazing was [FlyRotary] Re: PP Construction..

Ed,
All true, but PP comes into it's own when you need that extra power to match the size of the aircraft.
I'm pursuing the single for those aircraft that need just a bit more than 100 hp.
I think Richard is doing a great job in this area, and I hope he is successful.
George ( down under) 
Hi Dave,
 
I was just responding to Doug on whether I thought the H2000 aluminum brazing rod (pretty amazing stuff) would work to braze the PP tube to the outer aluminum surface of a rotor housing.  I think it would- provide you are able heat up the housing sufficiently. 
 
 While I find PP very intriguing, I realize that since I don't fly to the power capability of my stock 13B, there would not be much point on investing the time and money for a PP.  Yes, it could be nice on take off, but then I throttle back to my normal 7.5-8 gph economy cruise.  So it just doesn't seem to make it worth the effort - for me and my way of flying. 
 
However, for those who want high speed cruise it sounds like a good way to go.  The problem is other than  Richard Sohn and his PP single rotor, I don't know of anyone who has actually done it, much less flying with one.  The exception is the $$ PowerSport engine - nice PP, nice power - but expensive.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:24 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: PP Construction..


On 30, Jun , at 9:08 AM, Ed Anderson wrote:

Doug, I have not tried that particular brazing job, but I think it would be much better than just about any other method so far mentioned.  However, that rotor housing  is  a large mass of aluminum to get up to temperature brazing temperature, so it would probably take a high BTU torch and perhaps a larger propane tank (like for the BBQ grill)  rather than the smaller bottles.  I would certainly try it on a junk housing first.  But, seeing what they did in the H2000 video with that stuff, I would say it's certainly worth a try. 
 
 
Ed

Hi Ed and Doug,
I have been following the posts on al brazing, but I am not sure I have this right.
Are you suggesting that a SS Pport tube could be TIG welded to the steel liner inside the rotor housing and brazed to the cast aluminum housing on the outside?
This sounds like the ultimate solution
BR, Dave McC
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