Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #37918
From: Richard Sohn <unicorn@gdsys.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Different Rotary Port configurations
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:08:13 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I am not the fastest one myself, but sometimes I win.
 
Richard Sohn
N2071U
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:12 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Different Rotary Port configurations

Thanks Richard for the clarification.
 
Mark S.
(Looks like I should have typed a little faster.)
 
On 6/18/07, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Well Ed,
It looks like you've got yourself a new intake project.  Didn't Richard Sohn try running side and peripheral intake porting on his one rotor?  I vaguely remember him mentioning it and that he abandoned the idea.  I think it had something to do with the complexity of the dual runners and that he was satisfied with the idle characteristics of the p-port?  Maybe Richard can comment?
 
Mark S.

 
On 6/17/07, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com > wrote:
Ok, here's the answer to my question.  The second image shows a three barrel carb with the primary going to two side intake ports and the secondary going to the Peripheral ports.  Interesting concept.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 10:15 PM
Subject: Different Rotary Port configurations

 
Ok, getting a bit quite again.  Here is something that some of you may find interesting.  Its a graph comparing the possible different port configurations for the Rotary engine.
The top graph shows the intake and exhaust port opening for a engine with a peripheral intake and peripheral exhaust - such as a 13B which has been converted to a PP intake.
 
The trapezoidal shapes show the port area.  For example on the first graph the first rectangular area entitled PORT shows the Peripheral exhaust port open at 63Deg ATDC.  There are two trapezoid areas shown for the Peripheral intake.  A "P" which I presume stands for Primary and a much larger P+S which I presumes stands for a combined primary and Secondary port.  Although, I do not ever recall a PP with two tubes one for primary and one for secondary.  So there may be another explanation.
 
The second graph is our traditional 13B with sideport intake and peripheral port exhaust.  Here the intake timing for the intake is that of the NA 13B although it shows the intake opening a bit later than the stock 13B but closing at the stock 40 deg ABDC.
 
If you look at the area under the first graphs "P" trapezoid it appears to be open much longer than the P for the side port intake (2nd graph), but the trapezoid is not as high.  Wonder what that signifies? Open longer but not as large a port area?
 
Anyhow, thought some of you might find it interesting.   
 
 

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