X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2106445 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:44:42 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-103-061.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.103.61]) by ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l5GFi3R1009071 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01c7b031$4391e770$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RV-7A cooling Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:13:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Hi Dennis, My oil pressure will tend to drop when the oil gets to 200F by about the same amount 5-7 psi. I don't believe this is caused by foaming but by temperatures. This is fairly normal when your oil gets hot. At cruise my oil pressure runs at 65-70 psi with the stock pressure regulator and oil temps around 165-180F. I forgot to ask(and can't remember) are you using a thermostat or not? If you are using a thermostat then your coolant temps are what I would expect in Cruise, but your oil is still higher than I would feel comfortable with for long duration. If you were just seeing that on take off then I'd say fairly normal, but the oil temps should come down in cruise at least to the 180F region (in my opinion). Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Haverlah" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RV-7A cooling > Ed, > > The temperatures were in cruise. I modified my lower inlet duct to > provide a deeper wedge under the oil cooler and a tighter wedge under the > water cooler. I'll post a couple of picutres today. Is the oil pressure > OK compared to your experience? > > Dennis H. > > Ed Anderson wrote: > >> Oil temp is a bit higher than I would like. Its not clear to me whether >> these temps are during or right after the climb or during cruise. I >> presume they are a result of climb conditions and that cruise temps are >> lesser? Your coolant temps sound fine to me under those conditions if >> that's the temp during climb - if during cruise then I think its a bit >> high. >> >> Did you by any chance attempt to divide your plenum vertically to provide >> more air for the oil cooler? >> >> Ed >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Haverlah" >> >> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:35 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] RV-7A cooling >> >> >>> I've made more progress toward good cooling but have a long way to go. >>> At an OAT of 92 F I was able to climb to 5500 feet and cruse at 23 >>> inches MP. Water was 195 F and Oil went up to 209 - 210 F. >>> Oil pressure was 60 psi. I noticed my oil pressure went down to about >>> 58 psi as the oil pressure approached 210. This was after about 20 >>> minutes of flight. Is this an indication of oil foaming? Also, is this >>> too low oil pressure at 5500 rpm? >>> >>> Now for the question: I want to measure (in flight) air pressure to >>> determine if my outlet is maybe too small. Any suggestions as to what I >>> should be measuring? Static pressure near the outlet in the cowl vs. >>> ambient static pressure ? That is my first guess. Any other ideas?? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dennis H. >>> >>> PS - Pictures of my newest inlet design coming soon. >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html