Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #37826
From: Bob White <rlwhite@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: MSD type Ignition CD or not? was Re: Spark Plug Cleaning
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:59:33 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Ed,

Can you tell by looking at a plug if it's probably a SAG plug?  Is
there any way of testing the plugs without flying them?  If there were
some way to tell if that was the problem I experienced I would like to
find out. I've squirted oil in the chambers to protect the engine while
it's sitting around so that might complicate inspection.

I bought a CD system for my 1952 Ford back in the early '60's.
Unfortunately the '52 Ford was positive ground and the CD system was not
so it didn't work at all.  I then tried to build one from plans in a
book using the stock coil.  I never got it to work very well and gave
up on the project.  Bob W.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:39:29 -0400
"Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

Ok, Bob, I thought perhaps different MSD systems for different automobiles, seems I used to recall they had a series for regular automobiles that didn't use Capacitor Discharge, but my memory being what it isn't.

Thanks

Ed
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob White" <rlwhite@comcast.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MSD type Ignition CD or not? was Re: Spark Plug Cleaning


> Hi Ed,
>
> All of the regular MSD systems are CD's.  I sort of wonder if the
> Blaster coils are or not, and if they are do they have the same energy
> levels of the other MSD systems.  I think I've seen that the multiple
> spark feature goes away at higher RPM's because of time constraints.
>
> Bob W.
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:01:01 -0400
> "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Given the interest in getting rid of SAG - its important that we are all >> on the same wavelength when discussing components.  For example, there >> are a whole bunch of different MSD ignition systems out there - I'm not >> certain that they are all Capacitive Discharge types.  It may made a >> difference regarding their ability to avoid/delay on set of SAG.
>>
>> At least Lynn's assessment about the rise time of the CD type driven >> coils being so fast as not to permit much voltage  leakage via the lead >> deposits and thereby avoiding SAG seemed to make sense to me.
>>
>> So the question to Bob Mears is do you recall whether the MSD system >> being used was a Capacitive Discharge type?  Thanks!
>>
>> Ed
>>   ----- Original Message ----- >>   From: bmears9413@aol.com
>>   To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>>   Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:56 AM
>>   Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Spark Plug Cleaning
>>
>>
>>   SAG can appear any where apparently. We ran a MSD system on our race >> care and still ran into the problem. The problem ended when we switched >> to alcohol, but thats not a fix for airplanes!
>>
>>   Bob Mears
>>   Supermarine spitfire
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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