X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2091351 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:24:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.5; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id q.d13.b6e06a0 (52832) for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WEBMAIL-DF02 (webmail-df02.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.66]) by cia-m01.mx.aol.com (v115.17) with ESMTP id MAILCIAM018-ce604669666529c; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:23:33 -0400 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: For Lynn....Freshening 13B Side Housings Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:23:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wrjjrs@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 27618 Received: from 65.161.241.3 by WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.66) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:23:33 -0400 Message-Id: <8C977EFBA7515B3-884-E11C@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.104.66 X-Spam-Flag: NO Lynn, All the listings I've seen for Nitride have showed a much thinner=20 thickness. The thickness I've had quoted is .0005 to .0015 total. If=20 you change the surface at all you are going to go through the coating.=20 You can run uncoated as you mentioned so this isn't a REQUIRED coating. Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Lehanover@aol.com To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 4:08 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: For Lynn....Freshening 13B Side Housings In a message dated 6/7/2007 5:59:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 lendich@optusnet.com.au writes: Lynn, Having looked at that wear area on the end housings, I was wondering if=20 this was in excess, could we have the surface ground and then=20 re-Nitrided? The whole process wouldn't be anywhere near as expensive as new housings George (down under) Nitride is between .003" and .007" thick or, more accurately, deep. So=20 you could surface grind until the wear mark is within the .006" and=20 then DA the surface to kill off the grinder marks and supply an oil=20 holding=A0 surface, or, grind=A0until the wear mark is gone and then DA for=20 a nice finish. The engine don't seem to care about it until wear=20 exceeds .006". =A0 For all out racing and to save some very expensive ported irons, Paul=20 yaw grinds first and then laps to get his finish. Both acceptable. His=20 is better but pricey. =A0 In olden times, the irons were not Nitrided=A0and ran along just fine.=20 After about 100,000 miles, hard starting from low compression would set=20 in from iron surface wear and apex seal wear. The chrome would also=20 wear out about then even with soft carbon seals and the engine would be=20 just about junk. I would grind the irons up to three times, and finish=20 with a DA. I had to shim up the front stationary gear and cut a chamfer=20 in the front end of the rear stationary gear bearing. As the engine=20 gets shorter, the crank moves to the rear and the radius on the rear=20 throw would run into the main bearing. I had no money and was always=20 racing junk engines. =A0 =A0 Re-Nitride if you have to go over .006 to get a finish.=A0 =A0 Here are some measurements from Mazda but nothing on the irons. =A0 Lynn E. Hanover ------------------------------------------------------------ See what's free at AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free=20 from AOL at AOL.com. =3D0