X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2089892 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:20:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.239; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.250.88]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:20:20 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:20:20 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 4.171.174.200 by BAY115-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:20:17 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.171.174.200] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Frustration Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:15:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0095_01C7A916.A0125880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:15:04 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.50.0034.2000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2007 20:20:20.0425 (UTC) FILETIME=[4550F390:01C7A941] Return-Path: lors01@msn.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C7A916.A0125880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Buly,=20 I was anxious to take a look at your EC2 as soon as I got back but since = Bob's EC2 did not work either I guess you decided not to send it in. =20 If everything said so far is true about this problem and the attempts to = fix it then I am truly stumped. I keep mentally going back to the ONLY = thing that could explain all the symptoms: Missing connection between = the Injector return pins (19 & 37) and the negative terminal of the = battery (ground). BTW, Bob's EC2 may not have the diagnostic modes, can't remember when it = was built or last updated. If you can't think of or find anything else, send the EC2 in for a = check-up anyway. I'll pay for the return shipping just to satisfy my = own curiosity. =20 Tracy Crook (Still recovering from encounter with malicious, ignorant, = power-tripping, bureaucrat (redundant terms?) Colorado plumbing = inspector) =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bulent Aliev=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Frustration On May 21, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Russell Duffy wrote: > > That's almost certainly not keeping your engine from running, but =20 > it IS suspicious. Since you're desperate, have you tried removing =20 > power to the EM-2 to see if the injectors will work? It's a one in = > a million thought, but they do talk, and the EM-2 can change the =20 > lookup tables. Would the injector simulate mode actuate the =20 > injectors if all the fuel incjection tables were zero? Maybe try =20 > powering off the EM-2, and then resetting the EC-2 defaults to see =20 > if anything changes (leaving the EM-2 off the whole time). You are up-to something Rusty. When I checked my look up tables, they = were flat. Do you think Tracy flat lined my EC2? :) I tried also with EM2 turned off. Injectors did not react. I'll be busy the next few days, trying to make money to pay for my =20 extravagant hobby. But later I'll try all of your suggestions, than =20 will start shopping for a carburetor. Buly -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C7A916.A0125880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Buly,

I was anxious to take a look at your = EC2 as=20 soon as I got back but since Bob=92s EC2 did not work either I guess you = decided=20 not to send it in.

 

If everything said so far is true = about this=20 problem and the attempts to fix it then I am truly stumped.  I keep mentally going back to = the ONLY=20 thing that could explain all the symptoms:   Missing connection = between the=20 Injector return pins (19 & 37) and the negative terminal of the = battery=20 (ground).

 

BTW, Bob's EC2=20 may not have the diagnostic modes, can't remember when it was built or = last=20 updated.

 

If you can=92t think of or find = anything else,=20 send the EC2 in for a check-up anyway. =20 I=92ll pay for the return shipping just to satisfy my own=20 curiosity.

 

Tracy Crook  (Still recovering = from=20 encounter with malicious, ignorant, power-tripping, bureaucrat = (redundant=20 terms?) Colorado plumbing inspector)  

----- Original Message -----
From: Bulent Aliev
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 = 10:38 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Frustration


On May 21, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Russell Duffy=20 wrote:
>
> That's almost certainly not keeping your engine = from=20 running, but 
> it IS suspicious.  Since you're = desperate,=20 have you tried removing 
> power to the EM-2 to see if the = injectors will work?  It's a one in 
> a million = thought, but=20 they do talk, and the EM-2 can change the 
> lookup = tables. =20 Would the injector simulate mode actuate the 
> injectors = if all=20 the fuel incjection tables were zero?  Maybe try 
> = powering=20 off the EM-2, and then resetting the EC-2 defaults to see  =
> if=20 anything changes (leaving the EM-2 off the whole time).
You are = up-to=20 something Rusty. When I checked my look up tables, they 
were = flat.=20 Do you think Tracy flat lined my EC2? :)
I tried also with EM2 = turned off.=20 Injectors did not react.
  I'll be busy the next few days, = trying to=20 make money to pay for my 
extravagant hobby. But later I'll = try all=20 of your suggestions, than 
will start shopping for a=20 carburetor.
Buly

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