Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #37529
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] RV-7a cooling - continued!
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:40:37 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Glad to hear you were able to bring the temps down, Dennis.  Controlling the airflow so your large radiator (which is more than adequate) gets the maximum benefit is clearly the need. The photos of your turning vanes looks to me to have a nice curve to them and are clearly  helping the air flow. 
 
If I were going to suggest any change it would be to make the lowest vane a bit shorter than the middle vane and the upper vane a bit longer than the middle vane. The rationale for this suggestion is that the bottom portion of your radiator is likely to be getting the major portion of the air flow as it is from the straight-in approach from the inlet.  It just needs a bit of a vane to get it turned into the core at a better angle.  The upper segment of your duct likely has less favorable air flow - so having its vane a bit longer poking out into the inlet air will capture more of the high velocity air and direct it to the upper portion.  But you don't want it so long that it shadows your two lower vanes.
 
But, this is just a SWAG on my part if you are intent on making any changes.   On the other hand, if you got a 16 deg drop in oil and cooling temps with your current vane set up -then unless that still is inadequate for your cooling needs - why mess with success?
 
Regarding interpretation of air pressure in a duct - it can get counter intuitive.  Pressure tends to increase in two circumstances 1.  where there is a sudden change (enlargement) in cross section area (like a diffuser) and 2.  where airflow is restricted (like a core its encountering or  having blockage at the rear of the core). It generally means that the air arriving in that region of lower pressure has a lower velocity such that the conversion of its low amount of kinetic energy (dynamic pressure) does not produce much of an increase in static pressure.
 

The maximum pressure drop is across a solid core - which has no airflow – the minimum pressure drop occurs with no core - which has unrestricted airflow. Neither approach is optimum in removing much heat – but one is much lighter and has less cooling drag

 
So since the bottom of you radiator is pretty much seeing a straight shot from the inlet the velocity of that air flow is probably considerably higher than the air forced to make the turn to the upper end of your radiator.  Therefore you get higher pressure at the bottom due to the large amount of kinetic energy being converted to static pressure.
 
  Ideally, you would like you pressure distribution across the core to be equal - but the idea is rarely achieved. 
 
Sounds like you are on the right track to me based on the improvement you got.  You may have found the "magic" formula for successfully using the "James Cowl". 
 
Keep going!
 
Ed
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Haverlah" <clouduster@austin.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:38 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] RV-7a cooling - continued!

>I took out the first splitter/duct that was shown in my 5/27 posting
> photo 1678.  Cooling was than back to slightly marginal not critical!

> I than built a rig with 3 turning vanes to direct air into the radiator
> near the front of the wedge. (See attached photos)  I achieved about a
> 16 deg. F drop in oil and water!  This told me that most of the inlet
> air was going through the radiator at the small end of the wedge.  Bobby
> Hughes said he had seen data indicating a wedge duct had the highest
> pressure near the end of the wedge and lower pressure near the opening. 
> I now am considering modifying the lower cowl - inlet duct bottom -to
> include a curved ramp to direct air upward over the first 30 - 40 % of
> the radiator and than transition into a wedge the rest of the way back
> to the trailing edge of the radiator.
>
> I have not found any information I feel comfortable to use to design
> the curved ramp and may try to build a wind tunnel in the cowl on the
> plane. I should be able to insert several ramps and wedge shapes in the
> test area and measure air pressure on the back side of the radiator
> using a sensitive manometer.  I have two electric leaf blowers that may
> provide enough air to run it.  I'm planning on a 3 in wide x 4 in high
> inlet size.   Any comments or suggestions?
>
> Radiator to Duct Sealing:
> My radiators are sealed to the duct with silicone baffle rubber strips
> used on cowl-to-baffles on spam cans.  I believe my seals are very
> good.   But - after several E mails concerning sealing the duct I looked
> more closely at the total air flow sealing package.  On the Griffin
> radiator the fins between the tubes do not extend to the water tanks. 
> There is gap of 1/4 to 1/2 inch!!  This is on both ends of the radiator.
> The area of the holes is  0.375 in X 12.5 in X 2 ends = 9.375 sq in of
> holes just in the one radiator!  The Mazda oil cooler also has gaps but
> they are only about 1/8 inch wide. I also found about 2 more sq. in of
> other potential leaks I can fill using Leons light testl   Thanks for
> the info. to make me look harder at this area!   If I get the wind
> tunnel working I will first test with the holes and no ramp/wedge - fill
> the holes and retest to determine how much the holes decrease the outlet
> air pressure.
>
> Air Speed in Duct at Radiator:
> The inlet duct is 51 sq. in. (per James Cowls) and expands to about
> 17.25 X 8.5 inchs or 146 sq . in. at the start or forward end of  the
> radiator wedge.  This gives a velocity of about 42 mph for the cooling
> air at the front entrance of the wedge at the radiator at a climb speed
> of 120 mph.   The duct is a wedge from that point on the the rear of the
> radiators.
>


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