X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.72] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2076381 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 May 2007 06:22:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.72; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([72.153.149.20]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070531102126.PVY7173.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 06:21:27 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.50] (really [72.153.149.20]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070531102125.ITNU29051.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.50]> for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 06:21:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <91E62AFA-64DD-4C60-8B33-BD3BBC6D30D7@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: It is ALIVE!!! First Start in Houston Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 06:21:22 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Don't feel bad Dave :). I had a guy helping me with the wiring. He installed the same switches the same way: Down ON.... I could not figure out for a long time why the engine would not start, while I had all the switches UP? Buly On May 30, 2007, at 11:47 PM, David Staten wrote: > We are prolly gonna go with UP for ON and DOWN for OFF. That seems > to be the simplest for us southerners :) > > Yea.. it was the injector power switches. > > Dave > > Bob White wrote: > >> Congratulations Dave and Chris. Brings back memories of my first >> engine start. Are the switches you had to turn over the injector >> disable switches? If that was my diagram, up is for _disable_ and >> down >> is for run! As long as they work the way you want that's the way to >> wire them. :) >> Bob W. >> >> >> On Wed, 30 May 2007 22:10:06 -0500 >> "Christopher Barber" wrote: >> >> >>> Oh, and for those playing along, we did install the check valve >>> properly . So far only a minor oil leak from a plug in the >>> engine Dave thinks he may have just snugged in by hand and forgot >>> to tell me to get back to and a small coolent leak on a temporay >>> hose connection. Really, really small in both cases....almost >>> non issues. FWIW. >>> >>> Thanks again for y'all's support and well wishes. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Chris >>> Houston, Texas >>> Ellington Field (EFD) >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Barber To: >>> Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:54 PM >>> Subject: [FlyRotary] It is ALIVE!!! First Start in Houston >>> >>> >>> It actually started. We turned it off and it started again. >>> WAHOOOOO. But a mear wahoooo doesn't quite express the amazing >>> feeling and sense of accomplisment of first engine start of the >>> 2nd gen, turbo housing 13b. >>> >>> David and I rebuilt it about 1.5 years ago. Dave did most the >>> teardown, cleaning, measureing tolerance etc and we both rebuilt >>> it following along Bruce T's video and the Haynes shop manual. >>> Dave final install on the CC engine mount and Tracy's PSRU. I >>> ran the wires, hoses...and the rest. A true joint effort. >>> >>> We tried last night to no avail. Turns out when I wired the >>> injector switches based on a great diagram from the Flyrotary >>> list, the illustration stated "top" and I installed that end up >>> with the swithes being up when on. However, when I was checking >>> my wires this pm I noticed that power was coming through the >>> switch when the switch was down.....doh! So, I turned them over >>> and rechecked the rest of my wires and grounds. >>> In a damn optomistic gesture while in a pessimistic mood, my >>> hangar mate, Richard Sessions (who is restoring a VariEZ) and my >>> S/O, Jana and I pushed the tale of the Velocity out the hangar >>> door (of course it started sprinkling ) (Dave was still at >>> work). We took basic security procedures, ie showing Jana how to >>> use the fire estingusher. I turned on the switches (including >>> the now correclty mounted injector switches), turned on the >>> primary fuel pump, hit the starter button and DAMN, it >>> fired.........SCARED THE HELL out of us.......you should have >>> seen my two Cairn Terriers (Winston and Madison) head for the >>> hills (well, Houston has no hills, but y'all get the idea). We >>> kinda looked at each other in a mixed shock and amazement and >>> checke that we didn't blow anything off. We actually mixed fuel, >>> air, compression and spark and got combustion.....who'ed of thunk >>> it? >>> >>> We waited for the portable battery charger/starter to bring the >>> battery back up and tried again. Switches up, Pumps on, press the >>> starter button......damn, it sputtered and started (after some >>> cranking). It started to rev really fast, or seeminly so, so I >>> brought the throttle to closed, which didn't stop it, so I cut >>> the fuel pump and it stopped. Go figure. >>> >>> Well, we did this a few more times, never running it too long >>> since we do not yet have sensors on it yet. Also, Dave got off >>> work and came by to join the fun. Just the fact it actually ran >>> was great. Now that Tracy should be getting back into town, we >>> should be able to order the correct sensors to replace the ones >>> that were missplaced along the way. >>> >>> Not quite sure what to work on now. Obviously we will want to >>> smooth it out and get it to start easily. It is currently >>> running better on B than A. I may have inavertanly changed >>> someting on A while messing with it during start sessions (may >>> need to reset A...donno yet). I think I will now try to start to >>> clean up the wiring so as to make it easier to manipulate the >>> stuff in the cabin. Righ now the panel is laying where the front >>> seats should be. So this may be a good starting point while >>> waiting for sensors that will let me know I am not ruining my new >>> engine. >>> >>> Y'all's support and words of wisdom, along with Tracy Crooks >>> great products it what helped make this a reality. Thanks for >>> being there. NOW THE REAL WORK (read that as fun) BEGINS. >>> >>> Dave will be posting a much more technical account soon....heck, >>> I bet we both rushed home so we could annouce it to the world. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Chris >>> Velocity N17010 >>> w/ a Rotary 13b...that actually runs. >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/ > flyrotary/List.html