X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2075996 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 May 2007 23:52:53 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.69; envelope-from=Dastaten@earthlink.net Received: from [69.91.63.162] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Htbhw-0002kq-KE for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 May 2007 23:52:16 -0400 Message-ID: <465E466A.9070205@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:52:10 -0500 From: David Staten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: It is ALIVE!!! First Start in Houston References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 9a30bff84e6cb88f95c85d38d22416599ef193a6bfc3dd481a6d9d343c14eb099a0e5ac76fde8ac172fee374a2a11089350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.91.63.162 CHris... if any of the phone video's came out, try to upload em. The only one I have is of some cranking, some pops and a cheering section. Dave Christopher Barber wrote: >Yep, Bob, that is the one. Thanks for the diagram....except for my little >misreading, it was of great help. I usually use switches "up" for on and >that is what my little ol' mind was thinking. Thaks again. It contributed >to a GREAT day. > >All the best, > >Chris > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob White" >To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:39 PM >Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: It is ALIVE!!! First Start in Houston > > > > >>Congratulations Dave and Chris. Brings back memories of my first >>engine start. Are the switches you had to turn over the injector >>disable switches? If that was my diagram, up is for _disable_ and down >>is for run! As long as they work the way you want that's the way to >>wire them. :) >> >>Bob W. >> >> >>On Wed, 30 May 2007 22:10:06 -0500 >>"Christopher Barber" wrote: >> >> >> >>>Oh, and for those playing along, we did install the check valve properly >>> >>> >. So far only a minor oil leak from a plug in the engine Dave thinks he >may have just snugged in by hand and forgot to tell me to get back to and a >small coolent leak on a temporay hose connection. Really, really small in >both cases....almost non issues. FWIW. > > >>>Thanks again for y'all's support and well wishes. >>> >>>All the best, >>> >>>Chris >>>Houston, Texas >>>Ellington Field (EFD) >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Christopher Barber >>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:54 PM >>> Subject: [FlyRotary] It is ALIVE!!! First Start in Houston >>> >>> >>> It actually started. We turned it off and it started again. >>> >>> >WAHOOOOO. But a mear wahoooo doesn't quite express the amazing feeling and >sense of accomplisment of first engine start of the 2nd gen, turbo housing >13b. > > >>> David and I rebuilt it about 1.5 years ago. Dave did most the >>> >>> >teardown, cleaning, measureing tolerance etc and we both rebuilt it >following along Bruce T's video and the Haynes shop manual. Dave final >install on the CC engine mount and Tracy's PSRU. I ran the wires, >hoses...and the rest. A true joint effort. > > >>> We tried last night to no avail. Turns out when I wired the injector >>> >>> >switches based on a great diagram from the Flyrotary list, the illustration >stated "top" and I installed that end up with the swithes being up when on. >However, when I was checking my wires this pm I noticed that power was >coming through the switch when the switch was down.....doh! So, I turned >them over and rechecked the rest of my wires and grounds. > > >>> In a damn optomistic gesture while in a pessimistic mood, my hangar >>> >>> >mate, Richard Sessions (who is restoring a VariEZ) and my S/O, Jana and I >pushed the tale of the Velocity out the hangar door (of course it started >sprinkling ) (Dave was still at work). We took basic security >procedures, ie showing Jana how to use the fire estingusher. I turned on >the switches (including the now correclty mounted injector switches), turned >on the primary fuel pump, hit the starter button and DAMN, it >fired.........SCARED THE HELL out of us.......you should have seen my two >Cairn Terriers (Winston and Madison) head for the hills (well, Houston has >no hills, but y'all get the idea). We kinda looked at each other in a mixed >shock and amazement and checke that we didn't blow anything off. We >actually mixed fuel, air, compression and spark and got >combustion.....who'ed of thunk it? > > >>> We waited for the portable battery charger/starter to bring the >>> >>> >battery back up and tried again. Switches up, Pumps on, press the starter >button......damn, it sputtered and started (after some cranking). It >started to rev really fast, or seeminly so, so I brought the throttle to >closed, which didn't stop it, so I cut the fuel pump and it stopped. Go >figure. > > >>> Well, we did this a few more times, never running it too long since we >>> >>> >do not yet have sensors on it yet. Also, Dave got off work and came by to >join the fun. Just the fact it actually ran was great. Now that Tracy >should be getting back into town, we should be able to order the correct >sensors to replace the ones that were missplaced along the way. > > >>> Not quite sure what to work on now. Obviously we will want to smooth >>> >>> >it out and get it to start easily. It is currently running better on B than >A. I may have inavertanly changed someting on A while messing with it >during start sessions (may need to reset A...donno yet). I think I will now >try to start to clean up the wiring so as to make it easier to manipulate >the stuff in the cabin. Righ now the panel is laying where the front seats >should be. So this may be a good starting point while waiting for sensors >that will let me know I am not ruining my new engine. > > >>> Y'all's support and words of wisdom, along with Tracy Crooks great >>> >>> >products it what helped make this a reality. Thanks for being there. NOW >THE REAL WORK (read that as fun) BEGINS. > > >>> Dave will be posting a much more technical account soon....heck, I bet >>> >>> >we both rushed home so we could annouce it to the world. > > >>> Thanks. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Chris >>> Velocity N17010 >>> w/ a Rotary 13b...that actually runs. >>> >>> >>-- >>N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com >>3.8 Hours Total Time and holding >>Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ >> >>-- >>Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>Archive and UnSub: >> >> >http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > >-- >Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > >