X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2074532 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 May 2007 09:10:46 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=CBarber@TexasAttorney.net Received: from [24.238.254.112] (helo=BLF) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1HtNwG-0006zB-Gc for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 May 2007 09:10:08 -0400 From: "Christopher Barber" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: First Start... Well... Not Quite.. Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 07:10:31 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0400_01C7A289.9BCE5B40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 04a7e290e6af3b12d3631fa4f7b525ef239a348a220c260968ddc1441aec7daecaf3d2972259c4a35d5f9c5c39d41a28350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.238.254.112 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0400_01C7A289.9BCE5B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys, Thanks for the input. We have not tried the troubleshooting yet as we tried the start after 8:00pm and since I get up at 4:30am for work, it was getting late. So our post was kinda "thinking out loud" to our current status. We figured we would start fresh when I get up there tonight (yesterday, Tuesday is my Sunday and I had been tinkering all day for the eventuality of attempting to start this block of metal and tangle of wires./hoses. We did not get a spark with the B computer...so I have some tracing to do. Again, thanks for the words of experienced opinion. As you know, we will keep you posted...........of course, if'n we get it to start you will likely hear my shouts of joy and be blinded by the glean of my smile.. All the best, Chris. Christopher Barber Attorney and Counselor at Law 5110 Bissonnet, No 418 Bellaire, Texas 77401 Serving the Needs of Senior Texans 281-464-LAWS (5297) 281-754-4168 Fax www.TexasAttorney.net -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:21 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First Start... Well... Not Quite.. Dave, My 2 cents worth... Have you tried the injector simulation test to see if the injectors are working? This is done in Mode 1 with the engine off, and fuel pumps off (otherwise you'll get lots of gas pouring into the engine). Pressing the store button (while in Mode 1) should activate the injectors as if the engine was running at 3000 rpm. This should be easy to hear and will verify if your injectors are opening. Take a stethescope (or long screwdriver) and listen to each injector to verify that each one is working. If this test is successful, and you have spark, you should have exhaust noise. Mark S. On 5/30/07, John Slade wrote: Dave, The only thing that jumped out at me was wet plugs / new engine. Fuel pressure is a little high. I see 43 on one, 46 on both. You crankled on B with no start, then used cold start. I know you said you smelled no fuel, but change plugs and try cranking on A with just a few squirts of prime. Do you see a small RPM reading on EM2 while squirting prime? Do you have good compression? Try both batteries on. Getting close.... John -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0400_01C7A289.9BCE5B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Guys,
 
Thanks for the input. We have not tried the = troubleshooting yet as=20 we tried the start after 8:00pm and since I get up at 4:30am for work, = it was=20 getting late.  So our post was kinda "thinking out loud" to our = current=20 status.  We figured we would start fresh when I get up there = tonight=20 (yesterday, Tuesday is my Sunday and I had been tinkering all day for = the=20 eventuality of attempting to start this block of metal and tangle of=20 wires./hoses.
 
We did=20 not get a spark with the B computer...so I have some tracing to=20 do.
 
Again,=20 thanks for the words of experienced opinion. As you know, we will keep = you=20 posted...........of course, if'n we get it to start you will likely hear = my=20 shouts of joy and be blinded by the glean of my = smile..
 
All=20 the best,
 
Chris.
 

Christopher Barber
Attorney and Counselor at = Law
5110=20 Bissonnet, No 418
Bellaire, Texas 77401

Serving the Needs of = Senior=20 Texans

281-464-LAWS (5297)
281-754-4168 = Fax
www.TexasAttorney.net=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Mark=20 Steitle
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:21 AM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First Start... = Well...=20 Not Quite..

Dave,
My 2 cents worth...  Have you tried the injector simulation = test to=20 see if the injectors are working?  This is done in Mode 1 with = the engine=20 off, and fuel pumps off (otherwise you'll get lots of gas pouring into = the=20 engine).  Pressing the store button (while in Mode 1) should = activate the=20 injectors as if the engine was running at 3000 rpm.  This = should be=20 easy to hear and will verify if your injectors are opening.  Take = a=20 stethescope (or long screwdriver) and listen to each injector to = verify that=20 each one is working.  If this test is successful, and you have = spark, you=20 should have exhaust noise.
 
Mark S.

 
On 5/30/07, John=20 Slade <sladerj@sbcglobal.net>=20 wrote:=20
Dave,=20 The only thing that jumped out at me was wet plugs / new = engine.
Fuel=20 pressure is a little high. I see 43 on one, 46 on both.
You = crankled on=20 B with no start, then used cold start.
I know you said you = smelled no=20 fuel, but change plugs and try cranking
on A with just a few = squirts of=20 prime.
Do you see a small RPM reading on EM2 while squirting = prime?=20
Do you have good compression?
Try both batteries = on.

Getting=20 close....
John

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