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Posted for "George Lendich" <lendich@optusnet.com.au>:

Ed,
Which after market EFI was that?
George (down under)

>I agree with Finn. while I did not "leave" my engine flooded for a long time,
>it did flood badly when the old aftermarket EFI system failed and turned all
>the injectors full on (fortunately while on the ground) . Talk about a flood
>of gasoline pouring out the tail pipes, Mark!. I made no attempt to run the
>engine again, and took the intake manifold off and exposed the innards to six
>weeks of hot humid weather while doing some modifications to the intake and
>waiting for Tracy to build me an EC2.
>
> I put the time to good use by rewiring my engine for the new EC2.
> However, when I attempted to start it I found no compression, the engine
> just whirred over easily. I took off the exhaust manifold and found that
> there was a light (but enough) layer or rust on the apex seals. After a
> week of poking up through the exhaust with a brass rod, I managed to break
> all the apex seals free - except for one of course.
>
> I finally had to take the engine off the aircraft and open it up and even
> then ended up breaking the one apex seal. There was a light coating of
> rust - you could just about wipe it off, but it was sufficient to cause
> the seals to freeze.
>
> Yes, I tried all the remedies for unsticking the seals, but only poking
> with a brass rod finally broke them free - all but one that is. So from
> that time on I never go out to the hangar without pulling the prop through
> a few times and run the engine at least once every two weeks.
>
> As Finn pointed out the flow of gasoline apparently washed all the oil
> off of the internal surfaces of the engine combustion chamber and my
> leaving the intake off and the humid weather did the rest. So keep it
> oiled up is my advice.
>
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Finn Lassen" <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:18 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: first start
>
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> If you will not be running the engine regularly be sure to get some light
>> oil into each chamber so the seals won't rust and stick. Especially if
>> you shut down last time by cutting the ignition and thus left gasoline in
>> the engine. I recall that Ed had a bad experience after leaving the
>> engine flooded for a long time.
>>
>> Finn
>>
>> Bill Schertz wrote:
>>> Thanks, bear in mind that I am still a long way from flying. I have to
>>> bond the top of my fuselage on and then do the sanding and filling. I
>>> wanted to verify that the engine and controller would work before I made
>>> them 'harder' to get at.
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* John Downing <mailto:downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
>>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:38 PM
>>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] first start
>>>
>>> Bill, congratulations on your first start. As I'm getting close
>>> it is great that there are folks having better luck than Buly.
>>> JohnD
>>>
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