X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 57 [XX] (57%) URL: contains host with port number (43%) HEADERS: MIME content-type header doesn't contain charset information Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2060288 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 21 May 2007 23:12:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.148.227.151; envelope-from=hoursaway1@comcast.net Received: from rmailcenter89.comcast.net ([204.127.197.189]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20070522031143m1100rfne7e>; Tue, 22 May 2007 03:11:43 +0000 Received: from [24.11.213.126] by rmailcenter89.comcast.net; Tue, 22 May 2007 03:11:42 +0000 From: hoursaway1@comcast.net To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Frustration. The seriesl.... Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:11:42 +0000 Message-Id: <052220070311.16400.46525F6D000DD473000040102209224627CE970E990E9C9D9A0108@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: aG91cnNhd2F5MUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_16400_1179803502_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_16400_1179803502_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Buly, this is just a 25 year auto technitions wealth of elect. experience talking, when you are testing (an ongoing problem ) circuit I always test using the fobiden test LIGHT, checking to see if that circuit Will carry power. Many times in the past I saw other guys using an ohm meter that said the circuit was fine/closed, put power on it and it went open, recheck with dig. meter said ok again. Yes this is the digital age but, old world technology still applies (sometimes). If the circuit is for a sensor , or ecu communication then I just isolate the circuit from the computer to test if it will carry a load. Again this policy is usually used on problem cars not the everyday easy diog. & repair. But sometimes it catches me even on those. Hope this helps. David, RV6A two more weeks till paint on fuselage. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Bulent Aliev > Al, > I have two EC2's. Bob White sent me his to test against mine. The NOP > is flashing on both and A/B processors too. > I have power to pins 33 and 34. > Spark plug / ignition test on Mode 8 works fine. > 2 Serial leads have connectivity between EC and EM. > Since I have a second EC to swap, the EC is not a suspect. > During the Tracy's update I replaced the single wires to the > injectors with two pairs of shielded 18 gauge I got at S&F. > I started suspecting the wire, since it has one blue and one white > wire inside. The number on the wire is: 2112/202SJ-18 1F2Y2. > I thought it may be a some kind of resistor wire? But we tested > resistance, and checked fine? > Thanks Al. Looks like I need dumb luck to get out of this one :) > Buly > > On May 19, 2007, at 8:29 PM, Al Gietzen wrote: > > > Buly; > > > > Two things: Have you checked that the processor chip(s) are fully > > seated in > > plug (base); and - is the behavior the same for both controllers? > > > > If you have +12 power to pins 33 or 34, and you have the serial lead > > connected to the EM2, and the processor in functioning, you should > > not see > > NOP. Possibly something has happened in shipping or handling. If the > > processor is not functioning of course you can not trigger the > > injectors. > > > > Good luck, > > > > Al > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/ > > flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_16400_1179803502_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
Buly, this is just a 25 year auto technitions wealth of elect. experience talking, when you are testing (an ongoing problem ) circuit I always test using the fobiden test LIGHT, checking to see if that circuit Will carry power. Many times in the past I saw other guys using an ohm meter that said the circuit was fine/closed, put power on it and it went open, recheck with dig. meter said ok again. Yes this is the digital age but, old world technology still applies (sometimes).  If the circuit is for a sensor , or ecu communication then I just isolate the circuit from the computer to test if it will carry a load. Again this policy is usually used on problem cars not the everyday easy diog. & repair. But sometimes it catches me even on those.  Hope this helps.  David,  RV6A two more weeks till paint on fuselage.
 
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From: Bulent Aliev <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>

> Al,
> I have two EC2's. Bob White sent me his to test against mine. The NOP
> is flashing on both and A/B processors too.
> I have power to pins 33 and 34.
> Spark plug / ignition test on Mode 8 works fine.
> 2 Serial leads have connectivity between EC and EM.
> Since I have a second EC to swap, the EC is not a suspect.
> During the Tracy's update I replaced the single wires to the
> injectors with two pairs of shielded 18 gauge I got at S&F.
> I started suspecting the wire, since it has one blue and one white
> wire inside. The number on the wire is: 2112/202SJ-18 1F2Y2.
> I thought it may be a some kind of resistor wire? But we tested
> resistance, and checked fine?
> Thanks Al. Looks lik e I need dumb luck to get out of this one :)
> Buly
>
> On May 19, 2007, at 8:29 PM, Al Gietzen wrote:
>
> > Buly;
> >
> > Two things: Have you checked that the processor chip(s) are fully
> > seated in
> > plug (base); and - is the behavior the same for both controllers?
> >
> > If you have +12 power to pins 33 or 34, and you have the serial lead
> > connected to the EM2, and the processor in functioning, you should
> > not see
> > NOP. Possibly something has happened in shipping or handling. If the
> > processor is not functioning of course you can not trigger the
> > injectors.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > --
> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/
> > flyrotar y/List.html
>
>
> --
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