X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([68.142.229.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with SMTP id 2055357 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 May 2007 14:34:11 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.229.103; envelope-from=sladerj@sbcglobal.net Received: (qmail 41655 invoked from network); 20 May 2007 18:33:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tjZXJTgy3M1GVi6VTdGnn0K8JuvU+Jr8a98+Y7Tk5SGlAD6MrLLm1Nzj/9tPw5PqO6nr7yElPa1KRg3vRLqwmi04Sty2PuH1ZQaqceK+lAQwdjp49PDdd3KOaQwxSh4Ad5XxJOTS7uBUfgYasiGfJhoWrXsLxSbevjikG0SQkv0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (taskswap@sbcglobal.net@75.25.98.148 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2007 18:33:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: LQ4NTUIVM1l3awmm8BJ_qMgdi0hof1NeTClNwFzdde9203Gy5GOSM4msVe.K9rr9S8VmYeocNw-- Message-ID: <4650947D.8060609@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 14:33:33 -0400 From: John Slade Reply-To: sladerj@sbcglobal.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Marginal Cooling contributes to Crash. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >You guys could improve the test. Just throwing out the concept. I don't doubt your sincerity, Al, and the objective is admirable, but I t= hink it would be VERY hard to achieve any real science comparing differen= t installations, even on the same aircraft type at the same place on the = same day. There are just too many variables. Inlet duct size & shape, out= let size, airflow through the cowl, position of the heat exchangers, augm= entation system design, overall drag, engine model, accurate measurement = of actual results... the list is endless. There would always be enough no= ise in the data to render it meaningless, especially with plans built air= planes like the Cozy.=20 I believe that the ONLY way for each individual to approach the optimum i= s first to establish what it is and then for them, then approach it scien= tifically by changing things one at a time measuring airflow, cooling and= drag effects accurately as they go. This will be a very tedious exercise= involving lots time consuming redesign and rework, and its what many her= e have done over the years to get us newbies to the point we're at today.= The reality of putting one of these installations together from scratch = is an exercise is that you read and learn, look carefully at what other f= lyers have done, decide what you think is best of all you have seen and l= earned, then assemble your own approximation of a solution to meet your o= wn particular goals. There's enough information around these days that, w= ith a bit of luck, your first shot will work well enough to fly without o= verheating. Once you reach this point you can begin the exercise of impro= ving the cooling / cooling drag equation by experiment. The holy grail is= getting something that works (ie meets your own design criteria) first t= ime. It's EZ to err to the side of cooling drag and get something that co= ols but wont go fast. Its a lot harder to hit the target of something tha= t goes fast and still cools enough. Its all about experimentation and com= promise, with a little luck thrown in. John Slade