X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net ([206.18.177.51] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2050770 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:43:14 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.18.177.51; envelope-from=rlwhite@comcast.net Received: from rlwhite (c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[68.35.160.229]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with SMTP id <20070518034235b1100kd5bhe>; Fri, 18 May 2007 03:42:35 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:43:10 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: BD-4 Status Message-Id: <20070517214310.c2452d20.rlwhite@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Joe, The film runs about a buck a sheet, so at 10 gph and $4/gal a box of film runs about 2 1/2 hours flying time. :) If I figure I had about $30K in my plane and if I get half of it back, my 3.8 hours cost about $3950/hr. :( It kind of reminds me of the old story about how much it cost to cut your own wood. Bob W. On Thu, 17 May 2007 21:45:56 -0400 (EDT) jewen@comporium.net wrote: > > I keep my speed graphic in a case to keep the dust off, but I don't think > I will ever be able to afford the 4X5 film for it. I havent even had a > chance to put my darkroom back together, with all the AC building. Maybe > someday I will get my 645s back out (I wonder if they still work) or at > least a 35. > > Best Wishes Bob, > Joe > > On Thu, May 17, 2007 8:47 pm, Bob White wrote: > > Photography! I'm going to dust off my 4X5. > > > > > > Bob W. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 May 2007 07:35:59 +1000 > > "George Lendich" wrote: > > > > > >> Bob, > >> My words were only encouragement to keep you involved in one way or > >> another - yep 5 or 10 years do go quickly, especially when your getting > >> older, but what else would we be doing!? George (down under) > >> > >> > >>> Hi George, > >>> > >>> > >>> Yes I could afford the kit, but not the 4 or 5 years putting it > >>> together. :) The way I work it could have stretched to 10. (I'm no > >>> Rusty.) The Vision _is_ a slick looking plane, and looks like it > >>> could be a real performer. > >>> > >>> Bob W. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, 17 May 2007 15:32:16 +1000 > >>> "George Lendich" wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Bob, > >>>> That is a good price - I must confess of likeing the BD4 myself. > >>>> However if you only want to spend a few bob here and there ( excuse > >>>> the pun) the Vision is the way to go, for me anyway. Surely you could > >>>> afford the THAT kit on offer. We don't get to see those sorts of > >>>> deals in Australia. George ( down under) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Hi George, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The BD-4 is kind of like that too. There are a few custom items > >>>>> that are hard to get, the main one being the wing spars. Jim Bede > >>>>> and Team Aviation are two current sources and there are a lot of > >>>>> old BD-4 kits around that were never finished. I looked at a kit > >>>>> that had very little work done on it. The whole kit was $5600 > >>>>> with a lot of expensive options. If you want high performance at > >>>>> a bargain price, you can't beat the BD-4. > >>>>> > >>>>> One of my main goals was to have a fast cross country plane. > >>>>> Most of > >>>>> the big airshows where you can show off a rotary engine are quite > >>>>> a ways from here. :) > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob W. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, 17 May 2007 11:40:06 +1000 > >>>>> "George Lendich" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Bob, > >>>>>> There is a plane that you can build that will cost you 9/10's of > >>>>>> sweet bugger all - however it plans built. The beauty of this > >>>>>> plane (Vision) is that you can make parts as you can afford them. > >>>>>> I guess you already have instruments, engine etc. > >>>>>> Worth some consideration. > >>>>>> I'm working on a single rotary for the Light Sport Category > >>>>>> (Vision). > >>>>>> Power requirements are between 115 and 125hp. > >>>>>> George ( down under) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com > >>>>> 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding > >>>>> Cables for your rotary installation - > >>>>> http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>>>> Archive and UnSub: > >>>>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>>> Archive and UnSub: > >>>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com > >>> 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding > >>> Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>> Archive and UnSub: > >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive and UnSub: > >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >> > > > > > > -- > > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com > > 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding > > Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/