X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] (51%) URL: contains host with port number (-49%) URL: weird port adjustment Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2048807 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 May 2007 22:31:34 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-103-061.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.103.61]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l4H2UZ24007256 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 22:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01c7982b$944b7fa0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Problem found and fixed. Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 22:32:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine You could be right about that Finn. At the time I designed and built the electrical system, there was not any ready available information on what the current draw of a rotary running 6000 rpm would place on the ignition system. I found out early on when I blew the ballast resistor in the bottom of my Leading ignition module that it was probably higher than for auto application. Its a fairly robust pin, but may not be up to the task demanded of it - at least not for 10 years {:>). As I mentioned, I believe I will separate the two ignition modules and give each its own circuit which should help that end of things. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Finn Lassen" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:19 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Problem found and fixed. > Ed is it possible that just using one pin for both coils puts too much > current through that one pin? How many amps is it designed for? > Could be it's heating up and that is contributing to the "corrosion". > > Finn > > Ed Anderson wrote: >> After my uneventful 1600 mile detour through Louisiana after Sun & Fun, >> I went out several days later and could not start the engine. Didn't >> have time to trouble shoot it then, but I did today. >> The simulation modes were a great help. If put the EC2 in mode 1 (fuel >> pumps off) and pushed the store button - the injectors clicked like mad. >> I detached one sparkplug wire , placed a screw driver in it and laid it >> on the motor mount. I put the EC2 in mode 8 (ignition) and pressed the >> store button - nothing, nada, not a spark. >> So I started from the circuit breaker, confirmed I had voltage on each >> side. Next was a Molex circular plug which connects the instrument panel >> wiring to the airframe, I have 6 of them. I pulled the one which had >> the power line to the ignition coils and noticed that the power pin did >> not look bright and shiny as did the others. I sprayed some Corrosion X >> on it and stuck it back on - the engine fired right up. >> However, during the running it died at low rpm, so I pulled the plug >> back off an got out my near vision glasses and noticed that not only did >> it not look shiny but it looked slightly pitted and corroded. So I got >> out some fine sand paper and clean the pin and took a small fine tooth >> file and gentle "reamed" the socket. Put it back together and that >> apparently did the job. I wiggled the plug quite a bit while the engine >> was running and no further disruption of the ignition. >> Lesson Learned? Well, way back when I was doing my wiring (hard to >> believe over a decade ago), I was faced with a choice of pins - tin or >> gold plated. Well, need I say which one I went with - the tin ones, they >> were cheaper naturally. Later on I decided to use gold plated >> pins/sockets for the critical circuits (of which this is one), but never >> went back and changed this one (after all I did want to fly in my life >> time). Perhaps Bob White can chime in here, my recommendation would be >> to go with the gold plated pins vice the tin plated on for critical >> systems especially where they might be exposed to weather (like the tip >> up canopy can do). Anyhow, back in running shape - I did pull all the >> remaining plugs and squirted some Xrossions on the pins. None of the >> others had the dark/pitted look to them. >> Those simulations modes are really an asset in trouble shooting. >> Thought I would pass this on. >> Ed >> Ed Anderson >> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered >> Matthews, NC >> eanderson@carolina.rr.com >> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW >> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: >> 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html