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Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:27:17 -0600
From: Bob White <rlwhite@comcast.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Frustrating Sunday
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Ed,

The EM2 is powered up independently from the EC2.  The flashing NOP is
the normal indication if there is no serial communication with the
EC2.  It really sound like there is a problem with Buly's EC2.

Bob W. (Maybe your engine found out it was installed plugs up.)
       (Sorry! The devil made me do it.)

On Mon, 14 May 2007 21:15:19 -0400
"Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

> Sounds like you have clearly shown connectivity between the EC2 and 
> injectors, Buly.  Before, Tracy put in the injector (mode 1) and ignition 
> (Mode 8) simulation circuits, I would have said look to make certain your 
> crank angle sensor is still properly connected.  But, my understanding is 
> that the simulation circuits do not require the CAS to function properly. 
> In other words they "act" is if they are being trigger by a CAS but actually 
> are being trigger by an internal circuit simulating the out put of the CAS.
> 
> Since you indicate you do get spark when using the mode 8 ignition 
> simulation circuits - it sounds like the problem is isolated to the circuits 
> which trigger the darlington transistors which ground the injectors.
> 
> Just because, I can't think of anything else - have you tried it with the 
> EM2 unplugged from its EC2 connection?  You indicate you are getting a NOP 
> which as pointed out by several could mean no power from the EC2 to the EM2 
> OR simply no communication along the serial data circuit between the two. I 
> don't have an EM2 so not familiar with how it is powered,   IF indeed the 
> EM2 has the NOP because it is not getting power from the EC2 how could you 
> tell independent of the NOP blinking and does it mean anything relative to 
> your problem?  Could it mean some part of the EC2 is not getting power and 
> therefore the EM2 is not getting power from it as well?
> 
> Had a root canal done on a tooth today, so not certain I am going to be up 
> to laying around under the aircraft tomorrow - to see why my engine won't 
> start.  I do know that my injector simulation circuit is working because in 
> mode 1 they click like mad.  I suspect my problem is ignition.
> 
> So sort of in the same pickle - can't run the engine, planning on going to 
> Mid-Atlantic flyin this Friday - provided of course, I can fix the problem 
> and get the engine running.
> 
> I just can't think of anything else to suggest, Buly.  If I come up with a 
> brain storm, I'll let you know.
> 
> Ed
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bulent Aliev" <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:56 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Frustrating Sunday
> 
> 
> > Latest installment:
> > After work I performed a new battery of tests;
> > With the harness plugged in the EC2 and the ground connected, I  removed 
> > the board and performed all the tests suggested by all, buy  touching the 
> > the pins on the back where they are soldered to the  board. This way I 
> > eliminated the the possibility of bad connector  pin. There is power to 
> > both 12V+ pins. Triggered all the injectors  from the ground return pins 
> > as Tracy suggested.
> > Also checked the pins to make sure one is not sinking when pressed  down. 
> > They are all solid, even and straight.
> > I wander, what is triggering the grounding pins in the EC? Since the 
> > injector priming and testing features are not working, but all the  others 
> > do?
> > Buly
> >
> >
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