X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 73 [XX] (60%) BODY: contains text similar to "e chemist" (40%) URL: contains host with port number Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2043458 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:03:39 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-103-061.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.103.61]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l4EE2lMA000010 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000301c79630$c5ffa2d0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Tantlum capacitors Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:04:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Gietzen" >>> All of the >>> failures I've seen (2) occurred in the first few seconds of testing >>> (1) or because the electronic assembler installed the capacitor >>> backwards (reverse polarity) (1). > > This may be the most important point, Ed. My experience was on a test > fixture at the end of the assembly line. It was the first time the caps > had seen a biasing voltage. Think of it as dramatic crib death. It was > stated at the time that the insulating oxide formed on the tantalums when > the voltage was applied. Don't know if it was true, but the solution is > to bring the voltage up rather slowly to give the chemistry a chance to > work. > No doubt, Ernest, properly designed/tested etc, Tant Capacitors are viable, however, given I've never had a board chrisp before and now I have had three go into failure mode since the first of the year, something is happening. In any case, I've reworked the PC board design to use ceramics - now, if the failure mode continues then clearly, the cause will be something other than the TanT capacitor usage. Since I am dealing with Pulsed inputs from the injection circuit that may have some influence even though I have no Tants in those circuits. In looking at my circuit, it appears that the TanT capacitor I have on the +5V lead feeding the PIC Chip is a likely culprit for shorting and causing the current to run-a-way. I am going to check that out later today. Ed > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html