X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 32 [X] Return-Path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.244] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 1991730 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:28:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.132.244; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c34so191969anc for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:26:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fliwXKKehdDySF0pq1H1TArkpFvQpfhCTeNdYkx8V0rCVYog1xmJzmNLFPtboa2WlMz0vuuZpCSjY2lvhg4MJRgVzvU9lx1U1ciEZDVmkJlno/uLgKmT5BYkdjBKVrWSHwB4iH2XR2/rnbJYblbvJDUq/VlBkqRWYojwHT8i+q4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ng6veqwAr1TvlizjGOLeLgqjRbE+oPz+SFcnGSeJwaIkNToqnGDqxraWabso1qnbhBtRqhF3NxmMfnjrEkFlbmFbCjm4qHF+ZrY7KU+ypgID/BNrKb8S/+xMOrNwyUvh86My73qEwo32GZrxNwYiCr9B+TO7HPwTLnBw9qTgI+w= Received: by 10.100.41.8 with SMTP id o8mr375221ano.1176906414766; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.14.9 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0704180726t329d97a2p60818ded4a73e82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:26:54 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Norton Drone Engine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_94048_24859353.1176906414414" References: ------=_Part_94048_24859353.1176906414414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Reads like a Japanese owner's manual. On 4/18/07, Ernest Christley wrote: > > Google made this translation: > > As authority center for combustion engines this firm branch is occupied > primarily with the development and production of wankel engines. On a > test stand with most modern measuring technique fuel consumption > measurements with conditioning within each load range are tested on > consumption. Engines up to 160 kilowatts (230 HP) can be examined here. > A CNC machine manufactures most diverse parts for engines. The customer > master already developed extends meanwhile already world-wide. They want > to know more? Detailed technical information about the dia. moon Engines > engines can download you free of charge here. Select simply the desired > documentation. By click on "Download pdf" can you these on your computer > store. > > > Mark Steitle wrote: > > > Can anyone decipher this (taken from the Diamond website, Engines > > page)? I recognized the word "Wankelmotoren", but that's about all. > > > > > > Als Kompetenzzentrum f=FCr Verbrennungsmotoren besch=E4ftigt sich diese= r > > Firmenzweig in erster Linie mit der Entwicklung und Produktion von > > Wankelmotoren. > > > > Auf einem Pr=FCfstand mit modernster Me=DFtechnik werden > > Kraftstoffverbrauchsmessungen mit Konditionierung in jedem > > Lastenbereich auf Verbr=E4uche getestet. Motoren bis 160 Kilowatt (230 > > PS) k=F6nnen hier gepr=FCft werden. Eine CNC-Maschine fertigt > > verschiedenste Teile f=FCr Motoren. Der bereits aufgebaute Kundenstamm > > erstreckt sich mittlerweile bereits weltweit. > > > > * Sie wollen mehr wissen? * > > > > Ausf=FChrliche Technische Informationen =FCber die Diamond Engines Moto= ren > > k=F6nnen Sie hier kostenlos herunterladen. W=E4hlen Sie einfach das > > gew=FCnschte Informationsmaterial aus. Per Klick auf "Download PDF" > > k=F6nnen Sie diese auf Ihrem Computer speichern. > > > > > > Mark S. > > > > On 4/17/07, *Thomas Jakits* > > wrote: > > > > Well, there would be ways to deal with liability, but stop > > production completely? > > Why not sell it then? I assume there would be some interested > > people to restart! > > TJ :I > > > > On 4/17/07, *cbeazley* > > wrote: > > > > Hi Thomas; > > IIRC, there was some discussion (on ACRE?) that the owner of > > Diamond did > > not want the liability / lawsuits > > that might be associated with selling the former Midwest > (norton) > > wankels in North America. > > The one-rotor may still be available with some of the > > Schleicher self > > launch gliders. > > A Dragonfly (N222TH in http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp ) > > pilotted by > > Rich Goldman, formerly on this list, > > did a forced approach as a result of what sounded like an ECU > > problem. > > He may be able to shed more insight > > on the Midwest wankel and the engine failure post-mortem. > > > > Cheers > > Cary > > > > > Does anuone have an insight why Diamond does not build their > > 2-rotor, > > > certified engine? > > > Any CoI with the Thielert Diesel sold in the Diamond planes?? > > > > > > TJ > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | > ----=3D=3D=3D<{{(oQo)}}>=3D=3D=3D---- Dyke Delta Builder | > o| d |o http://ernest.isa-geek.org | > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > ------=_Part_94048_24859353.1176906414414 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Reads like a Japanese owner's manual. 


 
On 4/18/07, = Ernest Christley <echristley= @nc.rr.com> wrote:
Google made this translation:
As authority center for combustion engines this firm branch is occupie= d
primarily with the development and production of wankel engines. On atest stand with most modern measuring technique fuel consumption
measu= rements with conditioning within each load range are tested on
consumpti= on. Engines up to 160 kilowatts (230 HP) can be examined here.
A CNC machine manufactures most diverse parts for engines. The customer=
master already developed extends meanwhile already world-wide. They wan= t
to know more? Detailed technical information about the dia. moon Engin= es
engines can download you free of charge here. Select simply the desired=
documentation. By click on "Download pdf" can you these on your compute= r
store.


Mark Steitle wrote:

> Can anyone decipher = this (taken from the Diamond website, Engines
> page)? I recognized the word "Wankelmotoren", but that&#= 39;s about all.
> <snip>
>
> Als Kompetenzzentrum f= =FCr Verbrennungsmotoren besch=E4ftigt sich dieser
> Firmenzweig in e= rster Linie mit der Entwicklung und Produktion von
> Wankelmotoren.
>
> Auf einem Pr=FCfstand mit modernste= r Me=DFtechnik werden
> Kraftstoffverbrauchsmessungen mit Konditionie= rung in jedem
> Lastenbereich auf Verbr=E4uche getestet. Motoren bis = 160 Kilowatt (230
> PS) k=F6nnen hier gepr=FCft werden. Eine CNC-Maschine fertigt
&= gt; verschiedenste Teile f=FCr Motoren. Der bereits aufgebaute Kundenstamm<= br>> erstreckt sich mittlerweile bereits weltweit.
>
> * Sie= wollen mehr wissen? *
>
> Ausf=FChrliche Technische Informationen =FCber die Diamond= Engines Motoren
> k=F6nnen Sie hier kostenlos herunterladen. W=E4hle= n Sie einfach das
> gew=FCnschte Informationsmaterial aus. Per Klick = auf "Download PDF"
> k=F6nnen Sie diese auf Ihrem Computer speichern.
>
> &= lt;snip>
> Mark S.
>
> On 4/17/07, *Thomas Jakits* <= ;rotary.thjakits@gmail.com
> <mailto:rotary.thj= akits@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     = Well, there would be ways to deal with liability, but stop
> &nb= sp;   production completely?
>     Why not sell it then? I assume there would= be some interested
>     people to restart!
&= gt;     TJ :I
>
>     O= n 4/17/07, *cbeazley* <cbeazle= y@innovista.net
>     <mailto:cbeazley@innovista.net>> wrote:
>
>&nb= sp;        Hi Thomas;
>  = ;       IIRC, there was some discussion (on A= CRE?) that the owner of
>         Diamond did
>= ;         not want the liability / = lawsuits
>         that might= be associated with selling the former Midwest (norton)
>  =        wankels in North America.
> = ;        The one-rotor may still be avai= lable with some of the
>         Schleicher self>         launch gliders.
&g= t;         A Dragonfly (N222TH in <= a href=3D"http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp">http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/quer= y.asp )
>         pilotte= d by
>         Rich Goldman, formerly= on this list,
>         did = a forced approach as a result of what sounded like an ECU
> &nbs= p;       problem.
>   &n= bsp;     He may be able to shed more insight
>&nb= sp;        on the Midwest wankel and the= engine failure post-mortem.
>
>         Cheers
= >         Cary
>
>&n= bsp;        > Does anuone have an ins= ight why Diamond does not build their
>     =     2-rotor,
>      &nbs= p;  > certified engine?
>      =    > Any CoI with the Thielert Diesel sold in the Diamond plan= es??
>         >
> =         > TJ
>
>
>&= nbsp;        --
>   = ;      Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
>     &nb= sp;   Archive and UnSub:
>     &nb= sp;  =20 http= ://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
> &nb= sp;       < http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html>
><= br>>
>


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