X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.241] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 1974585 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 08 Apr 2007 16:07:46 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.132.241; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c34so1389104anc for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:07:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rgfKikOWNUuHM6ZW2EU64TaVKD2P+XTpYAlJKwMfikYYaCy7yBNvjNoHgeFkockBBNdOtm/t9J4u+SHLqzsWs6cTrH7IMVVXqBuR/lfW/FMTQufZ4GPldaRGsXrTTpGb76d9BpDi5Jdo2oCe6DBB3jIHb3EnNHSshfs3m0uqE0M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tMxLDsscggLyMUjMrEih9P0KgOr4+X2bSyPKdJX5VIDJXwenwk+UHs6pmAfhsdMIcRXabK8tpTCNZSTqEHG7NomZQdQMIAUPFsI2FtW/jwBf0UqDxegepJOG9JtEbOCSr55xhS1dgejkrtvTCwP+DNXmmN0C2osmKvRLgl8U+oU= Received: by 10.100.143.1 with SMTP id q1mr3490960and.1176062820273; Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.173.2 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0704081307m76452a75x60968fd099f3eb35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 15:07:00 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] EC2 injector driver change In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30915_32250664.1176062820220" References: ------=_Part_30915_32250664.1176062820220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Al, I had mine FP set about 10 psi low (mid 20's) and it idled great, running 550cc injectors in both primary and secondary. The EM-2 was showing psi in the high teens at idle. We'll see if I can get it to run as well with 36 psi FP. Mark S. On 4/8/07, Al Gietzen wrote: > > Mark, > > I found that the lower I set it, the better I could idle. So I loosened > up the screw all the way. that gave me about 40 psi with the engine off and > 32 psi at idle (manifold referenced). I can idle as low as 800-900 but it > is not smooth. It really will not run smoothly until up around 1200-1400 > rpm. > > David Leonard > > I also use 40 psi, engine off; drop to about 32 at idle. My experience is > very the same; and that is running with the staging reversed; i.e., it > uses the secondary only (slightly lower flow, MSD injectors out in the TB) > at idle. Using the 560 CC primary only the idle is terrible, and doesn't > smooth out until above 2000. The mixture is too rich, and as it is reduced; > before it smoothes out - the engine dies. I think this is very indicative > of the pulse clamping issue. > > > > I haven't tried lower FP. That should help, but may have other > disadvantages in injector spray pattern, etc. > > > > Al > > > ------=_Part_30915_32250664.1176062820220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Al,
I had mine FP set about 10 psi low (mid 20's) and it idled great, running 550cc injectors in both primary and secondary.  The EM-2 was showing psi in the high teens at idle.  We'll see if I can get it to run as well with 36 psi FP.
 
Mark S. 

 
On 4/8/07, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:

Mark,

I found that the lower I set it, the better I could idle.  So I loosened up the screw all the way.  that gave me about 40 psi with the engine off and 32 psi at idle (manifold referenced).  I can idle as low as 800-900 but it is not smooth.  It really will not run smoothly until up around 1200-1400 rpm.

David Leonard

I also use 40 psi, engine off; drop to about 32 at idle.  My experience is very the same; and that is running with the staging reversed; i.e., it uses the secondary only (slightly lower flow, MSD injectors out in the TB) at idle.  Using the 560 CC primary only the idle is terrible, and doesn't smooth out until above 2000. The mixture is too rich, and as it is reduced; before it smoothes out - the engine dies.  I think this is very indicative of the pulse clamping issue.

 

I haven't tried lower FP.  That should help, but may have other disadvantages in injector spray pattern, etc.

 

Al

 


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