Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #35068
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ideal cooling
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:49:13 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Monty wrote:

Now for the optimum part:

 

The absolute best possible performance would be a system that used just enough air Mdot to heat the cooling air to the same temperature as the water radiator exit temp ( water going back to the engine from the radiator). This condition is impossible to achieve in practice. So you try to get as close as you can. How close you get is called the heat exchanger effectiveness. The closer the air and water exit temps are, the better the effectiveness.

 

Monty:

I’ll respectfully disagree on this part.  It may apply if you have unlimited dynamic pressure to work with, because it doesn’t consider radiator thickness and air-side pressure drop.  We don’t have this case

 

Al

 

Have to vote for Monty's position on this one.  His statement (I assume intentionally) did not specifically get into radiator thickness, dynamic pressure, etc because he was trying to get down to the basic principal involved.  In this he is correct (IMO).  All these other factors are just that, factors.  They do not change the basic principal.  Limited dynamic pressure only means that the radiator has to be designed to work with what is available.  The goal remains the same.

 

Dynamic pressure data was available from the EM2 data log that I posted but I had to eliminate it and many others for the sake of readability.  In this case, dynamic pressure on the left rad inlet was slightly higher than the full amount available at the current airspeed (I am assuming this is due to the benefit of prop blast into the inlet).  Note:  Dynamic pressure is not a standard feature of the EM2, mine is a custom job.  You can use the TAS readout for this function though.  You just have to reverse the calculation from pressure to airspeed or get a conversion chart.

 

Really finding the discussion on the EM2 data interesting.  As is obvious, interpretation of the data is as important as the data itself.  And Rusty was right, having this capability is a two edged sword, you can spend unlimited time analyzing data and trying to optimize various things.  Identifying  the "low hanging fruit"  is absolutely key if you are to do anything other that tweak on the airplane.  When Paul Lamar came here and we did a bunch of in-flight pressure measurements, a lot of important things came to light but we disagreed completely on what they meant and how to address them.  (discussion on 'Cooling Study' on my website describes that effort).

 

Paul has done a lot to perpetuate the idea that my cooling system is "marginal at best".  I still can't figure out where he gets this from.  You do not fly an aircraft for 12 years and 1600+ hours in Florida, fly it to the desert southwest over 10,000+ foot mountains and win air races with a "marginal" cooling system.  Much has been made of the 'spray bar' cooling system I used when racing.  Anyone familiar with air racing knows this is common practice.  It is not necessary for normal operation and if you installed a cooling system that you could race without the spraybar, your top speed and MPG would suffer significantly.  I wish those who have criticized the spraybar setup would enter a race like the Sun 100 and show me how to do it right!

 

Monty is also correct about the need for studying steady state conditions.  You need to do that and the transient stuff to get the whole picture.  I posted a transient snapshot because it illustrated a few points I was interested in and the fact that a bunch of straight lines on a graph are much less visually interesting.

 

Tracy

 

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