X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.205] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.4) with SMTP id 1729441 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:28:45 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.198.205; envelope-from=tim2542@sbcglobal.net Received: (qmail 46576 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2007 03:27:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=lH//NNkzc276RUKelUsJGSAeOwBwKOsI6aQ8falJkGuIPYxoGTU7O7ffFSxxx+SsPsHaxId3Had5stICruc0XNuPRQJhxzyhpwu7eIHNQ35VeupX4r106wKWSg8O8loq/qrpuzz2WiEC34izXL1jBEPSZr6WV5N1KfSuTCES4EU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO andresxp) (tim2542@sbcglobal.net@69.224.70.252 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Jan 2007 03:27:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: wwAfErYVM1n.21UHEIX0Vw4nrkijUMk6P3iCq4SBkBI4LxpmqdnyvS6bG1OOCVNrN1bQQ4D7iXEazPxGk4_eIQKDQpQvw6vVHYzAegNKlo.5LlGN9X4Ex4mUOeuruELvBuy_aFuxWtLxDlY- From: "Tim Andres" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: OFF-TOPIC Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:27:53 -0800 Message-ID: <000f01c72e1e$02a67b30$6401a8c0@andresxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AccuDceCV4QZ10YKTEOdRgj8vKxwXwADSYwg Black smoke from a diesel **IS** unburned fuel. There are only 2 causes, as already mentioned poorly atomized fuel from fouled spray nozzles / injectors is one. The other more likely cause is insufficient air to the fuel burned, try not to think air fuel ratio as it doesn't really apply, we always prefer excess air on a diesel. Most likely cause is a dirty air filter or other restriction. On a turbo diesel an air leak downstream of the turbo is a common problem. A faulty turbo may not be producing the boost required. Start with the easy stuff first. I would not go pouring water thru the engine as it runs if that's what you were asking. Side note, I tried the acetone in fuel trick on my Nissan commuter car (gas). Very carefully noted the mileage over the same course for several trips and saw exactly no difference. I figured it was a hoax and I was dumb enough to try it. HTH, Tim Andres -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Thomas y Reina Jakits Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 5:31 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: OFF-TOPIC Buly, water IN the injectors is pretty unlikely - I use and actually change a fuel filter regularly - The Toyota filter is made to seperate water, never any problem. However if you imply water drops hitting the injectors.... Anyone else? Thanx Buly, TJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bulent Aliev" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: OFF-TOPIC > Thomas, my bet is on dirty injectors. I would suggest servicing them. Any > water in the injectors most likely will blow the tips off I was told. > Buly > On Jan 1, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Thomas y Reina Jakits wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> First HAPY NEW YEAR!! to all of you! :)) >> >> Question: >> >> A couple of weeks ago, someone (I think it was Lynn....) mentioned >> feeding waterspray into the throttlebody/carburator at around 2000 rpm >> (piston engine) to clean any deposits from the cylinder/piston/ >> turbo/etc. >> The discussion was about cleaning lead deposits from sparkplugs in the >> Rotary, me thinks.... >> I wonder if anyone of you is also a Dieselhead (besides the Rotary:)): >> Would this procedure help with a small Turbo-Diesel? (Toyota 3L Turbo >> Diesel). >> It runs great, but starts to puff small black clouds if I really rev it >> (Redline 4400 rpm). Smoke puffs start at around 3300 with pedal on the >> floor - under full load. >> I wonder if this is only some carbon deposits in the exhaust or a >> dripping injector or ??? >> I am running Acetone in the fuel (so far good results....). >> The engine has close to 110K km on it. >> I don't mind testing something, but if it is a definite no-no, I would >> like to know up front - it IS my daily driver. >> The engine is runnnig on Mobil Delvac 1 (The Mobil synthetic for >> Diesels) >> >> If it makes any sense to clean the engine with water spray no and then, >> please advice!! >> >> Thanx, >> >> Thomas Jakits >> TJ >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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