Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #34863
From: John Downing <downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Radical Prop Was C/S
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:49:20 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Ed;  If you have issue #79 of the Contact magazine, it answers many of the questions on the Elippse prop and shows a nice example carved by Craig Catto.  JohnD
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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radical Prop Was C/S

Ed
I had discussions with Paul and he credited me with the first person to correctly identify his design criteria/ objectives, pretty simple really however I would hate to design one that works from scratch - I know absolutely nothing about props.
George ( down under)
All too true, Bill.   I had heard that CATO was in discussion with Paul to build such props, but don't know if that came together or not.  Probably should send Paul an e mail (if I can find his) and ask him if he things his prop would be effective for a slower plane line a 200 MPH RV-6A.
Then I would have an idea if it would be worth while to try.  I'd want a 10 MPH increase for it to be worth my while - heck, I don't fly at top speed in any case, so really wouldn't be much point for me to get one {:>).  Now, if it would add 1000 fpm to rate of climb then that's a different matter.
 
Ed
 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radical Prop Was C/S

Ed,
I have followed Paul Lipps prop design efforts. Very interesting indeed. There must be some improvement in efficiency since the birds flying them are usually near or at the front of the pack. Looking for improvement is admarible Ed, The problem is often you must just build it yourself. Paul's efforts, at first at least, were the design program only. He would give you the numbers for the speed and HP you had and then you had to fabricate the prop yourself! I don't know if he is supplying a finished product yet or not.
Bill Jepson
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: eanderson@carolina.rr.com
To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net
Sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Radical Prop Was C/S

 
Look under heading BiPlanes in the below URL  and there a pilot reports a 20 mph increase using the radical Lipps propeller over a more conventional prop - again, my point is better ways may be more a matter of looking at fresh ideas about props and controllers rather than accepting what has been.
 
 
I believe this prop is optimized for high speed flight, and while I am certain I don't fully understand the total reason why, part of the reason it is faster appears to be that it can develop thrust right down the hub if the airspeed (prop advance?) is high enough.  Also the developer takes issue with the standard "broad" tips on props. etc. 
 
 
However, it may not provide the same amount of increase over my current prop due to the slower airspeeds I flight - but hey, even 10 MPH increase would be interesting.
 
FWIW
 
 

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